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Thingy Master

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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2008, 03:56:26 pm »
I tried to set up a barracks to see if those equipped with daggers would spar.

They didn't... I'll try think of a way to fix this but I doubt it can be done.
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2008, 09:43:40 am »
that's what caged goblins are for!
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Quote from: Rockphed on May 02, 2012, 02:01:16 am
Toady typically doesn't do things by half measures.  As evidenced by turning "make hauling work better" into "implement mine carts with physics".
There are many issues with this statement.
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2008, 10:00:02 am »
Boksi: I would very much like that list of skills. all I could find in the Wiki was the Professions.
...those being available was too much to hope for.

Because come on, a trail by sword is an awesome story-experience.
"Alright Urist. If you emerge victorious, through battle you will start on the path to becoming a KING.... buuuut I'd say your chances are about 50/50 of becoming goblin kibble. good luck!"

...or better yet. something that makes the bearer go into the "SLAVE profession" if he fights with it. heh.
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Quote from: Rockphed on May 02, 2012, 02:01:16 am
Toady typically doesn't do things by half measures.  As evidenced by turning "make hauling work better" into "implement mine carts with physics".
There are many issues with this statement.
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2008, 10:04:39 am »
Or give your legendary engraver a chisel and tell him to have fun.


OOH!  Actually useful idea!  Make a weapon that uses the Armor User skill.
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2008, 10:13:48 am »
I'm thinking more along the lines of the ridiculous. like waterwings. they teach you to swim. by beating things with them. or a pen that teaches bookkeeping. by stabbing things with it.

you'd totally have to have an "arena" built, though. for training purposes.

"We don't learn things here by doing them! We learn how by beating the crap out of other people!
THIS! IS! SPARTAAAAAA!!

...then he kicks the tantruming diplomat down a well.
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Quote from: Rockphed on May 02, 2012, 02:01:16 am
Toady typically doesn't do things by half measures.  As evidenced by turning "make hauling work better" into "implement mine carts with physics".
There are many issues with this statement.
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2008, 10:25:46 am »
UNARMED
MINING
WOODCUTTING
CARPENTRY
DETAILSTONE
MASONRY
ANIMALTRAIN
ANIMALCARE
DISSECT_FISH
DISSECT_VERMIN
PROCESSFISH
BUTCHER
TRAPPING
TANNER
DYER
WEAVING
BREWING
ALCHEMY
CLOTHESMAKING
MILLING
PROCESSPLANTS
CHEESEMAKING
MILK
COOK
PLANT
HERBALISM
FISH
SMELT
EXTRACT_STRAND
FORGE_WEAPON
FORGE_ARMOR
FORGE_FURNITURE
CUTGEM
ENCRUSTGEM
WOODCRAFT
STONECRAFT
METALCRAFT
GLASSMAKER
LEATHERWORK
BONECARVE
AXE
SWORD
DAGGER
MACE
HAMMER
SPEAR
CROSSBOW
SHIELD
ARMOR
SIEGECRAFT
SIEGEOPERATE
OPERATE_PUMP
BOWYER
PIKE
WHIP
BOW
BLOWGUN
THROW
MECHANICS
MAGIC_NATURE
SNEAK
DESIGNBUILDING
WOOD_BURNING
LYE_MAKING
POTASH_MAKING
SOAP_MAKING
SWIMMING
PERSUASION
NEGOTIATION
JUDGING_INTENT
APPRAISAL
ORGANIZATION
RECORD_KEEPING
LYING
INTIMIDATION
CONVERSATION
COMEDY
FLATTERY
CONSOLE
PACIFY



THIS! IS! CHANNELEDDAGGERS THE CHEESE OF HATCHETS!

I'm already on it.
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Quote from: PTTG?? on April 15, 2010, 07:32:32 pm
[BODY_DETAIL:NAIL:NAIL:NAIL]
[HAMMER:HAMMER:HAMMER]

[TSU_NOUN:nose]
[SUN_TSU_NOUN:art:war]

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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2008, 11:03:01 am »
a useful use would be making a crossbow that falls back on the "sneak" skill when it runs out of bolts. thereby teaching the hunter how NOT TO BE FOUND NEXT TIME.

...but I will instead make "PERSUASION" bats. and the aforementioned waterwings.

Do you think a Dwarf with the Throwing skill would handle combat differently? or would he just chuck the "throwing stick" that used the skill... waaaaaait.
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Quote from: Rockphed on May 02, 2012, 02:01:16 am
Toady typically doesn't do things by half measures.  As evidenced by turning "make hauling work better" into "implement mine carts with physics".
There are many issues with this statement.
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2008, 12:53:33 pm »
I must make an assassin's dagger that uses SNEAK in hand-to-hand!

Hm... adventure mode weapon that gives experience in APPRAISAL...?
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2008, 01:42:50 pm »
A piercing weapon that uses bookkeeping? Do you know how easy it is to raise that skill? that person would be unstoppable!
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2008, 01:45:46 pm »
You could make some interesting stuff like fancy-schmancy "contraption" weapons that use the mechanics skill.  But it would also be very nice to have various smithing hammers, so you could train a smith by just getting him to fight stuff (which is infinitely cheaper than emptying all the ore from your mountain for him to practice on).
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2008, 01:49:44 pm »

 A pen weapon that raises bookkeeping?

 Urist Connery: The penis mightier!
 Kogan Trebek: The pen is mightier! You are all idiots!
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2008, 01:51:55 pm »
Quote from: Duke 2.0 on October 05, 2008, 01:49:44 pm
Urist Connery: The penis mightier!

Eh?
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military scree
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2008, 01:59:47 pm »
[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BONESAW]
[NAME:bonesaw:bonesaws]
[DAMAGE:180:GORE]
[WEIGHT:50]
[RANGED:AXE:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:BONECARVE]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW_HUNTER]
[NAME:hunter's crossbow:hunter's crossbows]
[DAMAGE:70:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:CROSSBOW:BOLT]
[SKILL:STEALTH]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:5]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_NEEDLE_SEWING]
[NAME:sewing needle:sewing needles]
[DAMAGE:10:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:1]
[RANGED:SPEAR:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:CLOTHESMAKING]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:1]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_ARMORER]
[NAME:armorer's hammer:armorer's hammers]
[DAMAGE:100:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:HAMMER:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:FORGE_ARMOR]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WEAPONSMITH]
[NAME:weaponsmith's hammer:weaponsmith's hammers]
[DAMAGE:100:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:HAMMER:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP_TRAINER]
[NAME:trainer's whip:trainer's whips]
[DAMAGE:20:GORE]
[WEIGHT:10]
[RANGED:MACE:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:ANIMALTRAIN]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_QUILLPEN]
[NAME:quill pen:quill pens]
[DAMAGE:30:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:5]
[RANGED:SPEAR:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:RECORD_KEEPING]
[TWO_HANDED:2]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:2]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PACIFIER]
[NAME:pacifier:pacifiers]
[DAMAGE:500:GORE]
[WEIGHT:80]
[RANGED:SWORD:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:PACIFY]
[TWO_HANDED:6]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MEATCLEAVER]
[NAME:meat cleaver:meat cleavers]
[DAMAGE:200:SLASH]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:AXE:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:BUTCHER]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
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Quote from: PTTG?? on April 15, 2010, 07:32:32 pm
[BODY_DETAIL:NAIL:NAIL:NAIL]
[HAMMER:HAMMER:HAMMER]

[TSU_NOUN:nose]
[SUN_TSU_NOUN:art:war]

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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2008, 02:12:07 pm »
Quote from: Kagus on October 05, 2008, 01:51:55 pm
Quote from: Duke 2.0 on October 05, 2008, 01:49:44 pm
Urist Connery: The penis mightier!

Eh?

 Sorry I could not get the better Youtube version, but apparently it no longer exists.

 Surprise me Trebek!
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Quote from: Aqizzar on October 13, 2010, 04:19:47 am
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Re: How to use weapons that use skills other than the ones in the military screen.
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2008, 02:46:02 pm »
Armor user.

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPIKED_ARMOR]
[NAME:spiked bracer:spiked bracers]
[DAMAGE:100:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:SPEAR:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:ARMOR]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

Get your dwarves to swim: the safe way.

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WATERWING]
[NAME:waterwing:waterwings]
[DAMAGE:10:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:HAMMER:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:SWIMMING]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

Chisel your way to a legendary engraver.

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CHISEL]
[NAME:stone chisel:stone chisels]
[DAMAGE:10:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:40]
[RANGED:SPEAR:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:DETAILSTONE]
[TWO_HANDED:4]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]

You do need needles.

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_NEEDLE_LEATHER]
[NAME:leatherworking needle:leatherworking needles]
[DAMAGE:10:PIERCE]
[WEIGHT:1]
[RANGED:SPEAR:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:LEATHERWORK]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:1]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

This is nifty.  Well done.
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