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Author Topic: Bring Your Own Monster (8/12) — Game Over  (Read 16229 times)

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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #225 on: August 13, 2024, 02:14:07 pm »

I’m not really THAT here I’m posting off the top of my head from work when I can.

But I’m on lunch now and it’ll probably be my last chance to properly  look at things before EoD so lemme see if I can get in a quick reread

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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #226 on: August 13, 2024, 02:17:20 pm »

Of note, you don't have to be town to townread a bunch of people. Only townreading one is suspisous if you get outted after all. Meanwhile most of your lynches won't give much information. Which among them scumslipped and where?

As it stands, my vote on you is a product of your own actions. I don't actually have time today for this chinese fire drill stuff. You should have been voting and pulling people's opinons together yesterday.
Love how this game is all about how me getting mislynched is my own fault.
It's my fault that half the playerlist has done nothing and that their lynches won't give much info.
It's my fault that there's been no interactions between players other than myself all day.
It's my fault that nobody has been trying to pull the town together until today.
It's my fault that you're unable to read my alignment.
I'm sorry for not realizing earlier that I was supposed to carry this town from the start of d1. Super sorry for starting the game while a third of the playerlist is on vacation. Really extra sorry that you're terrible at mafia. My bad!
Seriously, you sure you aren't a jester?
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #227 on: August 13, 2024, 02:30:11 pm »

Here's my reads list for right now

4maskwolf: Has made quite a few posts, some fluff, some solid. Slight townlean for now

AnimePigeon: Looked like they were catching up on the thread, but doesn't look like they ever finished, not particularly impressed with their posts though, scumread on Magma Mater, which I don't agree with, slight scumlean

Crystalizedmire: They've posted here and there, but I'm not impressed with their posts either, scumlean

Fallacyofurist: I naturally want to suspect him, but he actually isn't putting off as many scum vibes as he usually does this game, placing him as a townlean

Imp: They are verbose as usual. They are playing within their usual town met, poking, prodding, and enquiring into every little detail. Townlean

juicebox: Hi-C Grape

Magma Mater: Quite the interesting figure, has an aggressive and abrasive tone, but their actions don't quite match up. While I don't like their refusal to make their top scumread or put pressure on them, they do seem genuine to me.
Townlean

Maximum Spin: Max is very hard for me to read, and the scarcity of their posts makes it even harder. Null

Oliverz144: They have some okay posts, but I'd really like to see more from them. Null for now

TricMagic: Tric is all over the place an paranoid about third parties, both of which fall into their town meta. Townlean

VermilionSkies: I like what I've seen from them so far, I hope to see more of the same. Townlean

Wolfkey: Almost Nonexistent, definitely need to see more from them. I don't like the no lynch vote, but I don't think it's alignment indicative. Null

For right now I think I'm going to rest my vote on Crystalizedmire. Who do you think AnimePigeon's partner is? If they are your top suspect for scum, why not vote them? We're definitely late enough in he day where we need to start backing out suspicious up with votes

Wolfkey: Do you have any suspects at all? Has anyone said anything that seems of to you? Is there anyone that you are sure is town? Surely there is enough here for you to have formed an opinion on at least one person

AnimePigeon: Have you gotten caught up with the thread yet? Do you had any reads on anyone? What's your read on Imp specifically, since you claim to be so good at reading them?
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #228 on: August 13, 2024, 02:44:15 pm »

Here's my reads list for right now

4maskwolf: Has made quite a few posts, some fluff, some solid. Slight townlean for now

AnimePigeon: Looked like they were catching up on the thread, but doesn't look like they ever finished, not particularly impressed with their posts though, scumread on Magma Mater, which I don't agree with, slight scumlean

Crystalizedmire: They've posted here and there, but I'm not impressed with their posts either, scumlean

Fallacyofurist: I naturally want to suspect him, but he actually isn't putting off as many scum vibes as he usually does this game, placing him as a townlean

Imp: They are verbose as usual. They are playing within their usual town met, poking, prodding, and enquiring into every little detail. Townlean

juicebox: Hi-C Grape

Magma Mater: Quite the interesting figure, has an aggressive and abrasive tone, but their actions don't quite match up. While I don't like their refusal to make their top scumread or put pressure on them, they do seem genuine to me.
Townlean

Maximum Spin: Max is very hard for me to read, and the scarcity of their posts makes it even harder. Null

Oliverz144: They have some okay posts, but I'd really like to see more from them. Null for now

TricMagic: Tric is all over the place an paranoid about third parties, both of which fall into their town meta. Townlean

VermilionSkies: I like what I've seen from them so far, I hope to see more of the same. Townlean

Wolfkey: Almost Nonexistent, definitely need to see more from them. I don't like the no lynch vote, but I don't think it's alignment indicative. Null

For right now I think I'm going to rest my vote on Crystalizedmire. Who do you think AnimePigeon's partner is? If they are your top suspect for scum, why not vote them? We're definitely late enough in he day where we need to start backing out suspicious up with votes

Wolfkey: Do you have any suspects at all? Has anyone said anything that seems of to you? Is there anyone that you are sure is town? Surely there is enough here for you to have formed an opinion on at least one person

AnimePigeon: Have you gotten caught up with the thread yet? Do you had any reads on anyone? What's your read on Imp specifically, since you claim to be so good at reading them?
No, I haven't fullly caught up.

My heads been a little all over the place tbh, got a few appointments in the next few days and had terrible sleep 😂
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #229 on: August 13, 2024, 02:48:54 pm »

Okay lunchtime over I read up to about page 13.

Short version.

Fallacy is fine.

Vermillion is fine for now.

AP and the wrong Wolf both scream “newbie”, or at least coming from an insular community with an unusual playstyle, so they are going to be a nightmare for me to solve. If I had to pick one to shoot it would probably be Wolf because while AP’s read list is nonsense it’s at least something. If this were a game with ITAs I’d happily toss these two on a shotlist and never look back.

Juice I felt underwhelmed by but just made a big post I have to read. Will reevaluate after but my initial thoughts are “could be a wolf”.

The way Oliverz writes inflicts psychic damage on me so I’ll have to reread later to get an opinion.

CM is basically fin, I still think their initial posts aren’t wolfy.

Max has mastered the art of saying little while posting. While his post on Fallacy was hilarious there’s nothing there that screams “town” to me.

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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #230 on: August 13, 2024, 03:25:34 pm »

I forgive you for your newness, Pigeon. Everyone starts somewhere.

However, I'd like to make the distinction between a positive and negative read and a pro-town vs. anti-town read.

I do agree that Magma Mater has been abrasive. However, does that make them more likely to be scum? I don't believe so. There are plenty of town players that have been tiresome to interact with. For all that refusing to share a read is unproductive, it does look to me like he's doing it to try and encourage town to analyze things more thoroughly. Which I disagree with heavily, but it does seem like genuine town play.

Negative read, but town player.

Unvote.

What do you say to that?

(Posting From Phone)

Ninja'd: Please don't completely quote massive posts. Quoting them in sections makes it much easier to see what you're responding to.

Noted regarding quoting posts!
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #231 on: August 13, 2024, 03:40:15 pm »

Hm. Looking through the game so far:

Fallacy seems a little strange, but like they're being strange with a purpose behind it. I don't understand what they're doing, but they're doing something. Unsure.
You, Imp, seem fairly reliable to me? You've actively questioned most posts without a clear purpose, and don't seem to be pushing for a lynch without information. Town.
Max has only posted one joke and one vague reply to a vaguer statement. Feels scummy to me, but I have zero evidence and even less room to judge for not posting much.
Interrupted mid-post - Magma, I haven't the faintest idea of what your plan is. You state that you have a lot of solid reads with no visible evidence to back any of them up. Unsure.
Also, I leave my computer and it's tabs open while doing other things. I've been doing laundry between posts.
4mask feels like they're trying to hit a post quota to avoid getting questioned for inactivity. They do have solid posts between the one-line quota ones, though. Town?
Oliver has also only posted once, which I'm unsure about.
AP has said nothing of note game-wise.
Tric feels like FoU to me, but also feels more like town to me. Maybe it's the higher activity, or it's the slightly less obtuse posts?
I might be missing people, but I feel like I should post this before I get stabbed.

I don't think that many people have said much of real note to be honest.

I'm not the greatest for posting lots or in high volumes, and sadly when I've been Avaliable, the thread has been pretty barebones.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #232 on: August 13, 2024, 04:04:43 pm »

I would rather have a townie get elimminated rather than no elimination.
Please explain your reasoning
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #233 on: August 13, 2024, 04:12:41 pm »

Show of hands on whether I should do something really stupid and dangerous that MIGHT win the game?
Why not? Do it!
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #234 on: August 13, 2024, 04:15:04 pm »

I would like to recommend that we don't get bogged down in complicated role hypotheticals and completely ignore obvious signs of behavioral scumminess.

Not that roles are irrelevant, mind you, but they can be very distracting.

Magma Mater still isn't explaining their reads. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Of the people you mention in your last paragraph, Crystalizedmire is mafia

Is CrystalizedMire the player that outed themselves according to your point of view?

FallacyofUrist, you're still doing the thing...

If you want me to actually improve you're going to have to explain what 'the thing' is.
Your right, Magma Mater has failed to elaborate or explain any of there reads.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #235 on: August 13, 2024, 04:17:42 pm »

Vote No Kill

Whilst I am most suspicious of Magma Mater so far, I don't feel comfortable voting someone off with the lack of info we have on Day 1's this I would prefer to avoid a vote death today.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #236 on: August 13, 2024, 04:26:44 pm »

Pretty rare for people to manage a no kill train but here we are. If I add my vote that's three.
No Lynch

If you want a lynch, go ahead and vote.
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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #237 on: August 13, 2024, 04:33:17 pm »

Juicebox’s read list is nothing special but I’d kill that last over other options.



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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #238 on: August 13, 2024, 04:36:34 pm »

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Re: Bring Your Own Monster (12/12) — Day One: Assembly of the Menagerie
« Reply #239 on: August 13, 2024, 04:36:48 pm »

Hey all, life is suddenly slammin' busy for me.  I will still be here and active, but way less than we're used to.  I'm still super invested here despite 115% busy, there will be long stretches of many hours where I can't post or read, suddenly I love our day length and can't care about the post limit, I suddenly can't imagine hitting it again anytime soon even by accident and blind enthusiasm, gotta be elsewhere too often.

Elims today I am okay with (but may find out I later regret):

Mater:  So abrasive.  Not very sure this is town, not super sure this is anti-town, super sure this is hard to work around.  When the tough gets tougher, as the game gets deep, will Mater work for town, even if not anti-town?  Oh that's so key for who I want to live, most games and this game.  There's clearly a lot of skill here, but is the derisive and devaluing language used indicative of this player's thinking?  If so, danger, Will Robinson, and you're at best a stow-away to me.  Of the elims I'm cool with, I'm kinda lukewarm about this one, I can tell there's a useful mind here and the person's paying attention and trying to tell who else is paying attention and to what.  I hate the putdowns though, and the overall playstyle, and can't prove this is town.  This could be a form of anti-town and unpleasant, so, here it is in my 'I'm okay with this elim' pile (Yep, has my vote still too).

Wolfkey:  Too low-key.  When I need you, Wolfkey, even if you are town will you be there for me?  Will you be reading, thinking, daring, trying, helping however you can best?  I don't see it.

AnimePigeon:  Dang you busy.  Me and you both Tarzan on that, but dangnabit I know how invested I am.  Gonna predict you're gonna be here when needed and it's clear, but.... oh man but.  So you are on this list, but I'm most lukewarm about you.  I don't think you're with-it here yet though which scares me you won't get here until late game if then, so you're on this list.

Oliverz144:  How deeply you understand, how careful you are or are not.  This is a game where shallow consideration is LIKELY to help anti-town more than town.


Yeah, these are not scumreads.  Because of watching the thread, I think town faces multiple evils some or many of which may not be able to win together.  I note on D1 we already have 2 claims of a form of investigation.  I'm not surprised if this game is about people finding the right people and getting rid of those, be those people town or other.  I don't think we need to have the wincon Persecutionist to have people who need to find exactly the right person, maybe because they have a specific alignment or even a specific role or something.

Town, I think we need to consider carefully balancing the evil we remove until we are kinda sure we face 1 team of evil, because we COULD face a balance of evil-fighting-evil as well as fighting us, and we might need to be careful how much we weaken one side or the other 'fast' (love to be wrong about that, that's really hard to do).  That's not backed up by mech I have access to, just 'this really feels right for what I see in the thread' and sure isn't ruled out by the OP or my own private info.

I think we have enough investigation likely in play for fireworks to happen, people talking or not, and this game may not be typically solvable by just day play or just mech, as some of our other recent games have really needed entwinement and a lot of clever player thinking (at least if town's to have a real chance to win).

About the no-elim votes, this game's weird enough I won't protest that too much either.  I would remove a player I think would hurt town/is hurting the game, but I don't actually firmly object to a no elim either.
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