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Where should the next fortress be?

Embark upon the cavern layer! Survive the depths!
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Reclaim our destroyed capital after filling it with divine weapons and armor! March with the fury of heaven!
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Salmeuk

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Re: The Forests of Burning: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #390 on: September 12, 2024, 01:00:00 pm »

Where would us DF players be without game-breaking bugs that require slightly annoying workarounds to be memorized and recorded into a mental solutions catalogue .. each of us carries a slightly different catalogue which is deeply burnt into the recesses of our memory.

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« Reply #391 on: September 13, 2024, 09:01:16 am »

Here is the save. I kind of left us in a pickle, because we've exhausted the cavern of all fish and we aren't growing food fast enough.
https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=17195

Salmeuk
LeftHandofGod
AvolitionBrit
Maloy
Kesperan
Maise_Now
Otto_K


This is the turn order as left over from our previous fort, are we all okay with that?


The World in the year 173



First off, our kingdom has a population of 800 having grown from a population of less than 10 when we started! Big win, and we're arguably an empire by historical definitions because we have absorbed the goblin kingdom and their population. Over half of our population are non-dwarves, which we can take that as we will.

Gateheaven has been hit pretty consistently by sieges, but is untaken. Its population rests at 500 instead of the previous 1000 according to the map. The jungles of Burning posses 500 and have a new dwarven hillocks just south of it. Maloy II holds the dwarven forest retreat right in the middle of enemy elven territory. The other named dwarves, including the rest of us, hold various forts and towns across the map(marked blue)

Going back to non-dwarves- Our king is a human migrant from the Union of Frenzy. The humans who put us through so much hell in the first fort! Many, including our expedition, consider him a traitor and plant from an enemy nation. We've been conquered from the inside more than likely!
Still, though: The Union has not attacked us once since we retired from Gateheaven. Instead they fight a losing war against 4 separate elven kingdoms. The union has lost all of its cities and the dark fortress it owned, but I wouldn't count them out. They're cutting a swath through the northern elven forests.

Secretly, I embarked us with 20 war elephants and the location we picked not just because of the beautiful cavern, but also because what is above us. Above us are goblin lands long conquered by the union and left ripe for re-conquering. A dwarven necromancer tower is nearby for powerful secrets and not far from that is a dwarven kingdom.
Now, before you get upset bearded brethren, consider that those dwarves were nearby and knew that our own kind were being genocided and enslaved and did nothing. They still do nothing to this day! I believe we are obligated to right this wrong soon and take those mountains for ourselves!

I am no longer expedition leader so this is not my choice to make, but I humbly submit this as the one who guided you to this dark garden!

Longnight

First order of business for me was to wall up the edges of that cavern-pasture. It's a perfect spot for our animals and as a courtyard as long as we make sure the big beasts don't get past the wall.


I had the dwarves begin making a bridge to the other side of the lake where we saw a plethora of edible mushrooms! Halfway through construction though everyone just stopped working?


Three weeks passed and no one was willing to pick up a pick or boulder or anything! They just stood around, or laid upon the fungi grass, fished, or chatted. It was insane! Don't these fools know the legends of these caverns? Monsters dragging you into the depths to drown you, spiders crawling upon the wall and killing you in a moment, or many limbed horrors roaring out of the depths to burn entire caverns up?

No, I guess not. No one has lived in a cavern at all in living memory.
Upon confrontations most dwarves said "I don't feel like it. Let someone else do it" It was a constant passing of the chores that was uncharacteristic for dwarves, but I thought of an idea!
I gave dwarves specific jobs and "appointed" them miners, masons, etc. This worked and now we are on the way back to working.


Unfortunately, a lot of time was wasted by the dwarves.


This is a good time to remind you that the most popular dwarven deity inhabits the idea of suicide.

We pick every single plant off the ground, raid the other side of the lake for its plants, and kill the wagon horses. We haven't touched the elephants, and Rimtar willing, we never will.


Elephants are moved to the courtyard and we begin carving an adminstrative/religious/tavern level of our new castle.

I wasn't in a rush for the tavern, but one of our only militia dwarves was throwing actual fits because he didn't have a stool to sit in while he drank his wine.

I have a lot of ideas for the castle:
The floor below it is developing into a residential level
Below that is guild halls and maybe eventually a proper industry sector.

I've also considered paving over the entire lake and building a huge industry center on top of it. Would give us more security at least!

Did I mention I had every dwarf practice swimming before we embarked? None of them are good, but we at least taught them how to use their beards as flotation devices in case they fall in!


A beautiful cave swallow dives near our settlement. A good omen for our future!


Nice job, Ilral! What is that exactly, though?


Ohhhhh. Neat a mandolin!
I guess the lads really want that tavern to be very nice, eh? I appointed a musician to use it
As a dwarf I respect the need for a tavern, but I am gonna point out that you guys nearly starved to death sitting around by the lake side and now your only concern is getting the tavern running? Come on!


BEAUTIFUL!

To the next overseer: I was considering digging a massive stone field just beneath the lake. Taking up most of our settlement boundaries, and then draining the lake into it to make a fungi field for the elephants. Do whatever you will, but I wanted to let you know that plan in case you have more elephants than pasturable field.



Second problem for the next overseer

uhhhhhhhhh. So, we're almost out of food. We drained the very last fish from the lake and now there are no more. I'm sure that won't have any long term consequences on the environment, but regardless that food source is gone. We've picked every edible fungi on our island and the other and we aren't growing food fast enough.
Peahens are laying eggs, but won't be enough.
Good luck!

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Re: The Forests of Burning: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #392 on: September 14, 2024, 03:28:17 pm »

ill pick this up today

looks great. the maps are a great resource for context. our burgeoning civilization will grow stronger yet
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Salmeuk

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Re: The Forests of Burning: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #393 on: September 15, 2024, 07:04:02 pm »

save here: https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=17197

I started the save file with 40 fps, ended with 34. seems like we have more than a few cavern invaders behind the walls.

elephant pasture:


lake walkway:


played for a number of hours until a crash. lost.. almost a full seasons / two hours worth of progress. so instead of forcing myself to replay those lost hours, I will clean things up and pass on the save to the next fellow. tomorrow. once I'm done crying over the crash haha  :'(

accomplished the following:
flooded pastures, expanded pastures
built a rather ridiculous 4 z level temple room
expanded bedrooms minorly
floored various things
cared for the elephants tenderly
fought very little, actually
listened to the Olm folk through the walls. They've killed three forgotten beasts so far!
built up the food stores

its all great except the military part - the metalworks are slow and very few pieces of equipment have been produced.

Oh, and funnily enough? We received a single migrant on the surface, named from one of the last fortresses 'Sisko'. I attempted to dig a staircase there but ran into trouble at some point - the dwarves refuse to dig any further. I will experiment a bit or pray for a random miner migrant at some point.
 
vod: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2251942972

Game journal below:

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« Last Edit: September 16, 2024, 08:59:13 pm by Salmeuk »
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Otto_K

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Re: The Forests of Burning: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #394 on: September 17, 2024, 07:36:34 am »

Alath died when digging a pool for the elephants. He slipped into the trench and was unable to swim.

Onol died in a similar manner, surrounded by multiple ramps that would have saved his life.

The elephants were too tall to drown and just stared at the dwarves as they dug the new pond.

Ah, the dumb ways to die... Still, zoo management in DF is always fun

Nice that you respected the lake! It must be preserved as a place of power


Still, though: The Union has not attacked us once since we retired from Gateheaven. Instead they fight a losing war against 4 separate elven kingdoms. The union has lost all of its cities and the dark fortress it owned, but I wouldn't count them out. They're cutting a swath through the northern elven forests.

Secretly, I embarked us with 20 war elephants and the location we picked not just because of the beautiful cavern, but also because what is above us. Above us are goblin lands long conquered by the union and left ripe for re-conquering. A dwarven necromancer tower is nearby for powerful secrets and not far from that is a dwarven kingdom.

Now, before you get upset bearded brethren, consider that those dwarves were nearby and knew that our own kind were being genocided and enslaved and did nothing. They still do nothing to this day! I believe we are obligated to right this wrong soon and take those mountains for ourselves!

I am no longer expedition leader so this is not my choice to make, but I humbly submit this as the one who guided you to this dark garden!

Delightful! I support the idea of waging war on the dwarf civs. We shouldn't let our dwarves' lust for vengeance be satisfied simply by the fact that our initial enemies have been devastated. More grudges! And who better to start a new destructive and pointless war than a bunch of cave-dwelling extremists?
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Re: The Forests of Burning: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #395 on: September 17, 2024, 03:33:51 pm »

That's rough losing progress.

I've never had a crash happen with this save yet, other than when we try to embark in funny places like this one, but once on it I have been fine.

Next up is LefthandofGod I will message
I will officially start saying for everybody SAVE OFTEN


Thankfully steam version now includes a "save and continue playing" button lol


@Otto also its neat fighting enemies that get martial trances lol Also we don't even really have any mountains to call home! Or more than two ruined hillocks! So we need to take theirs!
« Last Edit: September 17, 2024, 03:36:08 pm by Maloy »
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Salmeuk

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Re: Longnight the Umbral Souls: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #396 on: September 17, 2024, 10:23:57 pm »

the crash happened late in spring. so i too recommend saving often.

this cavern is amazing btw. it was naturally split in the middle with an east-west wall, so when the Olms invaded we only needed a single wall across a passageway to seal off the entire lake.

Do note, that there remains three off-map entrances into the lake portion of the fortress. Two can be walled off easily, located on the eastern edge of the map, while the entrance located on the southern edge includes a wide submerged portion that may prove difficult to seal completely.

poor 'Sisko' on the surface was surviving off of harvested shrubs and riverwater. So it would be prudent to somehow reach topside, if it is at all possible. 
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Maloy

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« Reply #397 on: September 20, 2024, 09:02:38 am »

Still haven't heard from Lefthand
I'll message Avolition

Can't blame anyone with long turn lists it can be two months before you get your turn so it is hard to check in regularly

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Re: Longnight the Umbral Souls: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #398 on: September 20, 2024, 07:11:51 pm »

I will pick this up tomorrow!
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Re: Longnight the Umbral Souls: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #399 on: September 20, 2024, 10:50:33 pm »

Sorry everyone, please remove me from the turn order until further notice. I'm just not feeling like doing succession forts right now, but I'm still enjoying reading about the cavern embark! This is my first time seeing anyone use that feature of dfhack.
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« Reply #400 on: September 22, 2024, 09:42:56 pm »

I will pick this up tomorrow!
looking forward to it.

Sorry everyone, please remove me from the turn order until further notice. I'm just not feeling like doing succession forts right now, but I'm still enjoying reading about the cavern embark! This is my first time seeing anyone use that feature of dfhack.

its underutilized but narrative rich. makes perfect sense for some dwarves to haul a wagon through the caverns and end up stuck somewhere and have to start anew.
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Re: Longnight the Umbral Souls: Building the largest world conquest fort series
« Reply #402 on: October 03, 2024, 02:16:15 pm »

Maloy
Kesperan
Otto_K
Salmeuk
LeftHandofGod
AvolitionBrit


Is this turn order accurate? Otto Did you ask to be put further down the list earlier or something? I feel like the save shouldn't be coming back to me before you

I'm down to take up the save in a couple of days!
Avolition thanks for playing hope to hear of your exploits soon! I know you gotta also do your museum turn right now lol

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« Reply #403 on: October 03, 2024, 03:15:47 pm »

I have a vague memory of asking to be bumped down the list but i couldn't find a message saying that. But let's see,

The turn order that actually happened:

-Start of Longnight-
Maloy
Salmeuk
LeftHandofGod (No response?)
Still haven't heard from Lefthand
I'll message Avolition
Can't blame anyone with long turn lists it can be two months before you get your turn so it is hard to check in regularly
AvolitionBrit

Next:
Kesperan (Said they're playing WoW?)
Maise_Now (Said they're out of turn list for now?)
I think I am going to be on DF hiatus for a while since new Wow expansion has launched and sucked me in...
Sorry everyone, please remove me from the turn order until further notice. I'm just not feeling like doing succession forts right now, but I'm still enjoying reading about the cavern embark! This is my first time seeing anyone use that feature of dfhack.
Otto_K
Maloy again?


I'm a bit busy and i also have a turn in succession in Blind's server coming soon as well, so i might be a bit preoccupied for a few days. I can't promise to finish a decent turn in a week, but i can either
1 Take longer time
2 Play mini turn
3 Be skipped for a bit more
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« Reply #404 on: October 04, 2024, 06:34:20 am »

I can start it tomorrow and then you do next week if that works!
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