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Author Topic: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - GAME OVER - TOWN VICTORY  (Read 58312 times)

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D2 Rotten Apples
« Reply #1755 on: February 05, 2024, 07:08:55 pm »

Max, thanks for making D2 more pleasant for me than it could have been otherwise.  The dance of death phrasing, wasn't calling you to come out to die or be poked until you died.  But to actually play, like you have.

My wording probably sucks; the wording I used would work well on me.  I just don't know how to talk to you when you're like that, maybe show me sometime on someone.  Well played, dude.  I hope you weren't used like heck, that always sucks.  But I never intended to use you, and I appreciate your not making D1 hell for me either.
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« Reply #1756 on: February 05, 2024, 08:22:47 pm »

Toony - It is understandable that they trust Webadict so much due to their role
How much weight do you give this?
Not much honestly, atleast before Toony's full claim. Also, I have a mimic ability which allows me to confirm whether or not Toony was lying about their ability(if I get lucky).
How would you have described your opinion on Toony aside from that?
I feel Toony should've picked up on the fact that webadict was maf because they played with web before.
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« Reply #1757 on: February 05, 2024, 08:23:46 pm »

I feel Toony should've picked up on the fact that webadict was maf because they played with web before.
Did you read Toony as town-leaning or scum-leaning overall?
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« Reply #1758 on: February 05, 2024, 08:52:52 pm »

So, Max voters.

What do you think scum Max was thinking, planning, and preparing for, all those hours as a scum web lynch was brewing and slowly became likely, to certain?

Why did scum Max never waver?  Why did townie Max never waver?
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« Reply #1759 on: February 05, 2024, 09:25:05 pm »

I wonder what will happen now that the sphere stuff has been discussed.  We'll see how it turns out if it gets that far, I guess.

FoU, what do you think of NJW's comments about the Page and the apple, and overall my case on him, including his second wincon claim and everything?

Starting here and ending here, his answers too?

Alright, I saved this post to respond to once I had the time and energy, which is to say, now.

Okay. Sorry, Imp, I think what NJW is saying makes sense. I haven't seen any sign of him trying to trade the page away, this day. If he is town, it makes sense that he should keep it, too, as it theoretically ruins the mafiakill.

His use of the Wishbone isn't confirmable this Night, though, so he theoretically could have killed. Unless there's some info about that going around that I missed.

If you want to attack him, you'll need to aim at his day play, not the mechanical swamp we're all stuck in.



I am One of the One Hundred Thirty Four Million Two Hundred Seventeen Thousand Seven Hundred Twenty Eight Blue Sphere Levels in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 for the Sega Genesis also Known as the Sega Mega Drive in Some Regions

I picked meta, setup knowledge, and mutation. I have no red spheres.

I have an auto mutation called Level Reward that gives a player a Chaos Emerald if they target me with an item.

I have a free meta mutation action called Cartridge Combo that let's me combine two non-auto abilities I have, including items.

I have four setup knowledge actions:

Chaos Emerald Roundup - learn the locations of every Chaos Emerald
Sphere to Touch - learn the number of times a blue sphere appears in the game, broken down between item and non-item
Sphere to Avoid - learn the number of times a red sphere appears in the game, broken down between item and non-item
Ring Count - learn the total number of items between living players

For some reason I started with an Inkstained Bible Page.

On D1 I traded my Bible Page for a Wishbone.

On N1 I used Sphere to Touch to learn the number of Secondary Wincons in play. I used my free action Cartridge Combo to combine Sphere to Touch and Sphere to Avoid together. I gained a new ability that is both Sphere to Touch and Avoid. I also lost my Wishbone, but then gained a Wishbone again.

I want to reject this role claim on principle, but after EuchreJack submitted Pirate King and you submitted Traflagar Law in FBYOR 6, I can't deny that coincidences happen.

You have to admit this would make a lot of sense as a mafia role, given web's own role, though.
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« Reply #1760 on: February 05, 2024, 09:33:18 pm »

Alright, I saved this post to respond to once I had the time and energy, which is to say, now.

Okay. Sorry, Imp, I think what NJW is saying makes sense. I haven't seen any sign of him trying to trade the page away, this day. If he is town, it makes sense that he should keep it, too, as it theoretically ruins the mafiakill.

His use of the Wishbone isn't confirmable this Night, though, so he theoretically could have killed. Unless there's some info about that going around that I missed.

If you want to attack him, you'll need to aim at his day play, not the mechanical swamp we're all stuck in.
you're voting him
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« Reply #1761 on: February 05, 2024, 09:39:03 pm »

you're voting him

Sigh.

ToonyMan, now let me come up with a new reads list.
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« Reply #1762 on: February 05, 2024, 10:07:58 pm »

Fallacy, what have you even been doing this whole game? I'd vote you if I didn't think you'd NO U and hammer me, which would make me sad. And also if you didn't always suck this much as town.
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« Reply #1763 on: February 05, 2024, 10:13:55 pm »

You have to admit this would make a lot of sense as a mafia role, given web's own role, though.

Cue sarcasm, though Toony is screaming about this too.

Lookie web-flip, one and all.

When you perform an action on a player (including "Give Item"), if that player has chaos emeralds at the end of the night, you will take a random emerald they own.

Web had no need for a chaos-gem finder.  It could speed stuff up, that's all.  He's extremely able through talking and direct anything, to go get these 'worthless' items.  Most of us won't even see a reason to not say if we have them, or to openly show and trade them.  And he just says it's a price, he has to take it if he comes and does whatever to us, 'can't be helped'.  But if we don't even have one, if he targets us, he can't take anything; but he's looking for his remaining gems so he can't target us again unless we trade for it so we have it, or help him find it.

Last thing web 'needed' was someone else with a find-gems power.

We needed that.  To have a chance to realize what the bleep was going on.

Also, maybe the artefacts I make are also chaos gems, I don't know, I haven't made any yet.  Giving that one power a way to help town and scum, and help lead town and scum into conflict, if we didn't realize we were fighting over chaos gems (maybe we aren't.  I'm not totally sure there's no possible town use for that power though).


Yeah.  How's Fal's scum night game?  I mean, if Fal's scum, can I kinda relax, or is this a clueless-looking player that will absolutely gut me, break my kneecaps, and cut my throat simultaneously as scum with their night game while I was looking in three corners they bumble-convinced me the scum were hiding in?
Fallacy, what have you even been doing this whole game? I'd vote you if I didn't think you'd NO U and hammer me, which would make me sad. And also if you didn't always suck this much as town.
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« Reply #1764 on: February 05, 2024, 10:14:42 pm »

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Fallacy, what have you even been doing this whole game? I'd vote you if I didn't think you'd NO U and hammer me, which would make me sad. And also if you didn't always suck this much as town.
Yeah.  How's Fal's scum night game?  I mean, if Fal's scum, can I kinda relax, or is this a clueless-looking player that will absolutely gut me, break my kneecaps, and cut my throat simultaneously as scum with their night game while I was looking in three corners they bumble-convinced me the scum were hiding in?
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« Reply #1765 on: February 05, 2024, 10:20:33 pm »

Fallacy, what have you even been doing this whole game? I'd vote you if I didn't think you'd NO U and hammer me, which would make me sad. And also if you didn't always suck this much as town.

Duping things, trying to get ToonyMan executed, and trying to find his scum partners.

... FallacyofUrist, if you don't switch votes to CrystalizedMire today, I will not only not untether you from EuchreJack, we're lynching both of you tomorrow even if it throws the game, just to spite you. If you switch, then I'll also switch back and there will be only one lynch today like a normal, civilized game of effigy mob violence. Can you do that for me? I made you town last game, you owe me.

I'd totally hammer you over your extorting of me on Day 1 as seen above, if not for the fact that you did fix my vulnerability, and I can't see a reason for scum to do that.

Yeah.  How's Fal's scum night game?  I mean, if Fal's scum, can I kinda relax, or is this a clueless-looking player that will absolutely gut me, break my kneecaps, and cut my throat simultaneously as scum with their night game while I was looking in three corners they bumble-convinced me the scum were hiding in?

As scum I relentlessly shake the mod and ask why I am scum for the twenty-seventh time in a row, flail endlessly, tunnel one or two players constantly, try to do neat things with my night actions, and then inevitably get executed when I look too suspicious and/or paranoid.

This is also what I do as town.
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« Reply #1766 on: February 05, 2024, 10:25:58 pm »

His use of the Wishbone isn't confirmable this Night, though, so he theoretically could have killed. Unless there's some info about that going around that I missed.

Psst.  He seems a wishbone specialist.  There's a decent chance for him wishbone use could be a free action.  I have no idea.

We should all lift our hands automatically to our mouths to hide the smile we really should have when we try to figure out what someone did last night, successfully find one (or more) possible actions, and think 'job done'.

That could be true for some of you, I'm sorry.  Tric currently claims to have no possible actions, which... Wow.  Someone got hit with the short end of the CYOS sample-set or something.  So hard to believe.
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« Reply #1767 on: February 05, 2024, 10:29:03 pm »

And the one scumflip we saw had a mafiakill sphere that just chained a kill optionally to another ability they'd commonly use all the time.

(Improvement)(Cascade)(Flux) Harness Emerald [target]: Replenish your target's limited-shot abilities at the end of the night. Your target's next action on someone also replenishes all their targets limited-shot abilities at the end of the night. (A player will be informed of this if and only if they have abilities that require replenishing.)

[Free](Mafiakill) Wrong Hands: Tonight your Harness Emerald ability will also mafiakill its target(s).

I mean, yeah.  We should try but... sheesh.  Imagine trying to track that.  Especially when all the emeralds are in place.

[Auto](Overpowered)(Slow) Supersonic Form: If you carry 7 different Chaos Emeralds, you can use each previous version of Harness Emerald once per night (i.e. use Harness Emerald up to seven times with seven different effects).
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« Reply #1768 on: February 05, 2024, 10:31:48 pm »

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Fallacy, what have you even been doing this whole game? I'd vote you if I didn't think you'd NO U and hammer me, which would make me sad. And also if you didn't always suck this much as town.
Yeah.  How's Fal's scum night game?  I mean, if Fal's scum, can I kinda relax, or is this a clueless-looking player that will absolutely gut me, break my kneecaps, and cut my throat simultaneously as scum with their night game while I was looking in three corners they bumble-convinced me the scum were hiding in?
Scum Fallacy rarely gets the chance to use night actions, but when he does, they're probably totally unhelpful to scum and will somehow manage to hit every town player's trap possible. Fallacy... tends to get ideas above his station, if you follow me. In other words, likely to try some cockamamie plan that could never have worked in a vain attempt to try to confuse town, then immediately get pegged by everyone for it.



I'd totally hammer you over your extorting of me on Day 1 as seen above
You know, Imp was right that there was no reason to assume anyone would actually go along with me on that. I thought it was funny that it actually worked on you a little.
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« Reply #1769 on: February 05, 2024, 10:37:53 pm »

I'd totally hammer you over your extorting of me on Day 1 as seen above
You know, Imp was right that there was no reason to assume anyone would actually go along with me on that. I thought it was funny that it actually worked on you a little.

Oh, hilarious.

I have no idea what alignment Max is.

This game... if he's town... I kinda want his brain to help because we're opposites, and he can probably catch what I miss and we can actually help each other and it's nqt's game, might take us both?... Sorry, Max.  You can probably solve it alone, wasn't intending insult.

But yeah, if he flips town.  This is back to homage to the last couple games, and for me specifically EuchreJack D1, my key in lock.  This is different, but similar enough and I will definitely regret if we actually are 'mason buddies', without the mason.  Gonna miss your mind, or pray thanks to all the powers.  'Distrust' is a crappy reason to kill a possible ally, in my book.
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