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[Maxine]

Well it’s a good thing we’re creating a utopia and not trying to delay an inevitable collapse by making sacrifices with every decision we take. Some people didn’t play Fable 3 and it shows.

Someone is getting pissy I don't agree with them and is lashing out it seems.

Also Fable 3? Lmao, you seriously taking a swing at me with Fable 3? Oh no, what a masterful put down, I am destroyed, I don't match up the experience of the great and esteemed veteran of Fable 3. Such a complex and difficult game, such a gamer you must be.

[Man of Paper]

Well that was certainly a projection and escalation.

[Maxine]

Well that was certainly a projection and escalation.

Hmmm, nah, just clapping back. Feel free to private message me if you want to explain how you weren't trying to insult or talk down to me though.

[Maximum Spin]

Why are we trying to solve an issue that we’re being told isn’t an issue instead of doing something like:

Bureaucratic Expansion And National Standards

Money is good. More money is better. Having sources able to provide more money on a steady basis is even better.

Bad business is bad, so the empire has bean counters audit businesses in order to identify poorly managed enterprises with potential to thrive. This Imperial Revenue Service helps successful business owners find and buy out failing businesses within the same field in order to improve efficacy of the markets overall. Businesses that benefit from BEANS have a slightly increased tax rate but benefit from boosted business brought on by preferential treatment and closer overall ties to the Empire. Monopolization is good if it works in our favor’

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[Fluffe9911]

Why are we trying to solve an issue that we’re being told isn’t an issue instead of doing something like:

Bureaucratic Expansion And National Standards

Money is good. More money is better. Having sources able to provide more money on a steady basis is even better.

Bad business is bad, so the empire has bean counters audit businesses in order to identify poorly managed enterprises with potential to thrive. This Imperial Revenue Service helps successful business owners find and buy out failing businesses within the same field in order to improve efficacy of the markets overall. Businesses that benefit from BEANS have a slightly increased tax rate but benefit from boosted business brought on by preferential treatment and closer overall ties to the Empire. Monopolization is good if it works in our favor’

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[EuchreJack]

Hydrological Arbitrage: You know what needs more water? The North, that’s right. We shall build canals and divert rivers from the south to the north to result in a more equitable distribution of water. This is only just and fair, and shall prevent too much flooding in one area and drought in another.
Hubris? Never heard of her.

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[RulerOfNothing]

Why are we trying to solve an issue that we’re being told isn’t an issue instead of doing something like:

Bureaucratic Expansion And National Standards

Money is good. More money is better. Having sources able to provide more money on a steady basis is even better.

Bad business is bad, so the empire has bean counters audit businesses in order to identify poorly managed enterprises with potential to thrive. This Imperial Revenue Service helps successful business owners find and buy out failing businesses within the same field in order to improve efficacy of the markets overall. Businesses that benefit from BEANS have a slightly increased tax rate but benefit from boosted business brought on by preferential treatment and closer overall ties to the Empire. Monopolization is good if it works in our favor’

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[King Zultan]

Why are we trying to solve an issue that we’re being told isn’t an issue instead of doing something like:

Bureaucratic Expansion And National Standards

Money is good. More money is better. Having sources able to provide more money on a steady basis is even better.

Bad business is bad, so the empire has bean counters audit businesses in order to identify poorly managed enterprises with potential to thrive. This Imperial Revenue Service helps successful business owners find and buy out failing businesses within the same field in order to improve efficacy of the markets overall. Businesses that benefit from BEANS have a slightly increased tax rate but benefit from boosted business brought on by preferential treatment and closer overall ties to the Empire. Monopolization is good if it works in our favor’

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[NUKE9.13]

Turn 3 - First Action Results
TURNTURNTURN

Bureaucratic Expansion And National Standards

Money is good. More money is better. Having sources able to provide more money on a steady basis is even better.

Bad business is bad, so the empire has bean counters audit businesses in order to identify poorly managed enterprises with potential to thrive. This Imperial Revenue Service helps successful business owners find and buy out failing businesses within the same field in order to improve efficacy of the markets overall. Businesses that benefit from BEANS have a slightly increased tax rate but benefit from boosted business brought on by preferential treatment and closer overall ties to the Empire. Monopolization is good if it works in our favor’

[Lucky] Everyone loves money. Very few people in the Imperial Court have any complaints about this reform, since it should make everyone richer. And with the Imperial budget recently reviewed, it proves relatively easy to identify sectors where profitability could be increased. The Imperial Revenue Service quickly gains a beloved status- a visit from the IRS means getting more money, after all. Even those whose businesses are bought out don't complain too much, since they are given fair compensation.

Establishing BEANS does come with some up-front costs, but the treasury is well-stocked, and the investments quickly pay for themselves. Concerns have been raised, however, that if we were- hypothetically- to find ourselves in a tight monetary situation, we might not be able to pay for these sort of projects, even knowing they will quickly prove profitable. After all, for the Empire to stoop to taking loans seems unthinkable. Even merchants are reluctant to take loans, given the tendency of lenders to be... predatory in their requests for compensation.
On the other hand, some merchants that the IRS has been dealing with complain of the opposite problem- too much money. Which sounds like... not actually a problem, but apparently these merchants feel like money should be moving around, not sitting in a vault. But they're busy running their own businesses, and can't always find places to 'invest' their wealth profitably- they don't want to just lend out money to whoever asks, since there's too much risk. 

Anyway, that's probably an unsolvable problem. Fortunately, it isn't a problem for us, since BEANS has increased our tax income significantly (+1 Wealth), whilst also revitalising the economy in several areas. Not that the economy was in a bad shape, but extra resilience never hurt.

The heavy rains continue, but local governors report that they have moved or rebuilt afflicted villages, and shored up flood defences in at-risk areas. The matter is resolved.


The State of the Empire:
Population: 6
Wealth:     7
Military:   6
Technology: 7
Reputation: 7

DISASTER: nothing at the moment.

REFORMS:
-Revived Senate (chance to avert civil wars)
-Revised Imperial Budget (makes financial reforms easier)
-Imperial Workforce And Relief Fund (makes infrastructure expansion easier, makes peasants unhappy)
    -Northern Canals And Ecological Livability Project (increases risk of flooding, decreases risk of drought)
-Bureaucratic Expansion And National Standards (decreases risk of economic turmoil)


Choose your second action, and a stat to manually decline.

[King Zultan]

Let's dump reputation this time around.

[chubby2man]

Expanded Citizenship Rolls: For too long the title of citizen has only been granted to those descended from the heartland of our Empire. If we wish to truly reform the empire, we must have all the peoples under its banner be invested in its success and survival. And so we will offer citizenship to all landowning men (and perhaps even *gasp* women) to show that we are a diverse and equitable empire.


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Decrease Reputation sure.

[Fluffe9911]

Expanded Citizenship Rolls: For too long the title of citizen has only been granted to those descended from the heartland of our Empire. If we wish to truly reform the empire, we must have all the peoples under its banner be invested in its success and survival. And so we will offer citizenship to all landowning men (and perhaps even *gasp* women) to show that we are a diverse and equitable empire.

Wait hang on how do we recruit people for our military? If we do the old roman thing where service = citizenship then this is gonna absolutely tank our recruitment levels.

[Man of Paper]

We should keep to one or two dump stats so we can actually be considered effective somewhere, and use our actions to build up what we got. If we are so set on spreading out our losses as wide as possible though, I think we should at least attempt to make the turns net-neutral. So I propose the following:

Development Of Realms Festival

DORF is an annual celebration of the bountiful and successful development of the empire, with goods and food from all over the realms brought to the capital for a grand three-day fair. Speakers (vetted by the organizers) provide stories of the wealth and successes brought upon them through the Imperial arm flexing its muscle during evening events before the nightly feast. Military parades are also held during this time to show off the Empire’s impressive strengths.

Manual Reduction: Reputation


If this goes as expected, I figure we will see a use of wealth to gain reputation and then knock the reputation gain down. In a game where we’re being told collapse is inevitable, having a turn see nothing erode would probably be ideal. I still think we should actually have dump stats though.

[King Zultan]

Development Of Realms Festival

DORF is an annual celebration of the bountiful and successful development of the empire, with goods and food from all over the realms brought to the capital for a grand three-day fair. Speakers (vetted by the organizers) provide stories of the wealth and successes brought upon them through the Imperial arm flexing its muscle during evening events before the nightly feast. Military parades are also held during this time to show off the Empire’s impressive strengths.

Manual Reduction: Reputation

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[RulerOfNothing]

Expanded Citizenship Rolls: For too long the title of citizen has only been granted to those descended from the heartland of our Empire. If we wish to truly reform the empire, we must have all the peoples under its banner be invested in its success and survival. And so we will offer citizenship to all landowning men (and perhaps even *gasp* women) to show that we are a diverse and equitable empire.


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Decrease Reputation sure.

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Also we have to keep this in mind:

Needless to say, the stats are more than just a countdown.
As they decrease, disasters may be triggered that challenge the empire in unpredictable ways.
If the stats become overly unbalanced, other disasters may occur. (Disasters may also occur for other reasons)
They are also currency that you can spend on actions (see below).

so I don't think 'dump stats' are a good idea