I feel like notquitethere keeps refusing to think in terms of teams, which is pretty scummy to me. His arguments imply a Toony/Fluffe team, but how does that work? He hasn't actually said it and has made no move toward defending it.
You're right I haven't thought much in terms of teams. I'm keeping an open mind about possibilities as I know from bitter experience how wrong things go when you run off on shaky assumptions. We only know there might be two teams based on 1. Lenglon (actual verified scum) and 2. Jim's guess about the theme of the game being 2x2x2x2.
I agree it's mostly this, but we don't know for certain. Also, I simply haven't done the work to look back and try to divine player relations based on votes etc. There's been too much night stuff and day game to work through. More thoughts:
1. There isn't yet proof of a frame-artist, but if anyone was framed I can believe it was Toony. His latest bus claim changes things though (would scum take out town!Toon?).
2. Why did Toony bus with KW, the player who can speak with the dead, a player Toony was apparently convinced was town on D2? Makes little sense from a town perspective! He says he'll explain later. Hmm.
Anyway having thought about what is known. Max has already figured some of this out but I best be straight:
I might have something interesting to say later but for [REDACTED] reasons, maybe not. I'm waiting on a message from the mod, who is also probably asleep.
OK I've had word back from the Web. Some facts I need you to know:
1. Part of my role gives mod info which, as such, I can neither confirm nor deny. It'll be obvious exactly what, if scum kill me as you'll be able to see what I mean by the flip.
2. My role is
Inspector Poirot:
Little Grey Cells: [My deductive powers are so great, I cannot be tricked by ordinary powers - including this global redaction. "Super" powers could trick me. As such, I was able to get info last night]
“I expect you’re wondering why I gathered you all here today” : [I can open investigations on multiple people-- the investigations do different things as you might imagine]
“Trust Hercule Poirot. He knows.”: [Until the denouement (in this case, my role-flip), I can't full claim everything, including some of the specifics about how my role works. If I die, you'll all see what I mean. I was hoping to be killed and then talk through Knightwing once people had the advantage of seeing my flip. Also, note on D1, I never said I tracked Toony, he just inferred it from me knowing he targeted me. I can neither confirm nor deny that that's what I did.]
I'm still working out all the details as things aren't all adding up.
- Fluffe9911 was targeted by A_Curious_Cat, Maximum Spin, and ToonyMan. This matches with the claims except one or more of these four players has omitted some actions. There is scum within this pool.
- A_Curious_Cat and juicebox performed Actions on me.
Juicebox has not claimed this. I had good reason to move to think Juice was town were it not for this discrepancy.
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Toony is probably lying about tracking Fluffe
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Fluffe targeted someone else, though I suppose it's not impossible it was due to hypnotism
We know that conversion is a danger in this game, with the masons being highest targets for conversion, so another possibility is that someone like Max is working with a scum team-- perhaps with Fluffe and the action theft was a lie to cover the real action -- or perhaps with Toony, stripping Fluffe of the commute so he could be hypnotised... Still, that possibility is not the most salient danger right now.
Toony, we know you've lied before, and I know you're lying again now. What did you really do with all your turtles?
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