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[FallacyofUrist]

FoU third time’s the charm eh. Maybe we’ll be on the same team this time..? What do you think the setup is with a whole 15 players?

Absolute hot garbagio. Nothing about this game is going to be reasonable. The heavens are rumbling and preparing to smite us all.

NQT and juicebox and MaxSpin: I already asked FoU, but now I’ll ask you and try to get away with asking the same question to a quarter of the town: what do you think the setup is in terms of alignment spread?

Oh, alignment.

Most likely is 10 town, 3 to 4 mafia, and 1 third party.

Aside from that, there could be multiple scumteams, a complete absence of mafia (and a lot of hostile third parties), three cult leaders...

Webadict is not afraid at all to mix things up.

The conventional pattern would suggest 10 town, 3-4 mafia, and 1-2 third parties.

Personally I'd bet web has mixed it up this time around, though, since the last few games have been more reasonable.

I’d like to be on a team with FoU, even if it had to be scum. I enjoy playing mafia with him.

Noted.

FoU does your role indicate in what manner alignments may change?

No. It just indicates alignment changing is possible.

[Toaster]

hector:

Toaster and Jim and ToonyMan: who are the players we should be trying to clear first? I was going to ask this to the more experienced players but there are quite a few of you so I guess those three seem to be a decent cross-section for this one…

Far too early to worry about individual players, really, and I'm not really into clearing a specific person anyway.  If the question you're trying to ask is "who's generally hard to read" then I'll give you... oh, Fallacy, Toony, and Jim.  Fallacy can be unpredictable, Toony I've watched some great play in the Mafiascum tournament, and Jim is good at driving a thought process if he's invested, though his investment is fickle.


Fallacy:

No. It just indicates alignment changing is possible.

I hate cults.

[FallacyofUrist]

Fallacy:

No. It just indicates alignment changing is possible.

I hate cults.

If I were in webadict's place, this setup would have two cult leaders, one direct serial killer and one indirect serial killer.

Thankfully I am not webadict. Nor am I Shakerag.

[Lenglon]

Hector13: I refuse to tell you if I'm third party right now. How do you feel about that?

Tric: How are you going to get yourself lynched by your own teammates?

Jack: prove you aren't juicebox.

Egan: Are you wearing cat ears?

Max: Prove that RVS questions are useful with facts and logic.

Jim: if you could thanos-snap half the players here right now at the cost of also killing yourself, would you? why or why not?

Toaster: You're shakerag. prove me wrong.

Fluffy: Almost all of these questions I'm asking are useless and stupid. Which one is the worst and which one is the closest to actually being worth something and why?

[FallacyofUrist]

Ask me questions too, or you won't have a leg to stand on.

[Lenglon]

Ask me questions too, or you won't have a leg to stand on.

No

[FallacyofUrist]

You may or not regret this.

[Lenglon]

You may or not regret this.

yEs

[Toaster]

Lenglon:

Toaster: You're shakerag. prove me wrong.

I thought about it, but no.  Also, burden of proof's on you.


At what level of group-refusal to participate does RVS fall apart?

[Lenglon]

Lenglon:

Toaster: You're shakerag. prove me wrong.

I thought about it, but no.  Also, burden of proof's on you.


At what level of group-refusal to participate does RVS fall apart?

Toaster: When and how did RVS hold together in the first place?

[FallacyofUrist]

RVS is garbage. However, much like democracy, it's better than the alternatives by a long shot.

We did try skipping RVS that one time. Had a Night 0 and everything.

That didn't work out so well.

[A_Curious_Cat]

Egan and A Curious Cat (do you mind if I call you Cat? I post exclusively from phone so that’d make my life so much easier) and Fluffe and Knightwing: what do you think is going to be the best way to find scum on D1? What do you think is the best way to find town on D1?

1.  Yeah, sure.  Knock yourself out.

2.  I’m not sure there’s any way to be sure without violating the rule against quoting one’s role PM.  Maybe write everyone’s names on separate pieces of paper and put them in a hat?  Maybe assign everyone a number from 1 to 15 and use Avrae to roll a 1d15?  IIUC, we’ll be in a lot better position once the first person has been lynched.  Of course, I could be wrong.  I’ve never played Mafia before…

[Toaster]

Lenglon: I feel like it's a passable vessel for breaking the ice.  It rarely on its own generates real value, and I think it mostly happens because no one has come up with a serviceable alternative that's worth anything.  Many many years ago, you'd see practically arbitrary tunneling right out the gate, but it's been a while since I can recall seeing it.

I do feel RVS can/will fall apart if the large majority fails to meaningfully participate.  Is that bad?  Only if nothing replaces it. 

PPE:  There goes Fallacy using the analogy I considered using.

Egan and A Curious Cat (do you mind if I call you Cat? I post exclusively from phone so that’d make my life so much easier) and Fluffe and Knightwing: what do you think is going to be the best way to find scum on D1? What do you think is the best way to find town on D1?

1.  Yeah, sure.  Knock yourself out.

2.  I’m not sure there’s any way to be sure without violating the rule against quoting one’s role PM.  Maybe write everyone’s names on separate pieces of paper and put them in a hat?  Maybe assign everyone a number from 1 to 15 and use Avrae to roll a 1d15?  IIUC, we’ll be in a lot better position once the first person has been lynched.  Of course, I could be wrong.  I’ve never played Mafia before…

Gives me an idea though.

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NQT:  The most logical and infallible method has determined that you are scum.  Who's your most reliable scumbuddy?

[FallacyofUrist]

Lenglon: I feel like it's a passable vessel for breaking the ice.  It rarely on its own generates real value, and I think it mostly happens because no one has come up with a serviceable alternative that's worth anything.  Many many years ago, you'd see practically arbitrary tunneling right out the gate, but it's been a while since I can recall seeing it.

Lenglon is obvscum. I used my one-shot infallible nuclear awesome day-alignment inspect no-failure-possible ability on her and she's mafia. Everyone vote Lenglon now or I will break your legs.

[hector13]

Lenglon: considering my penchant for worrying far too much about outed TP’s, as per our last game and MafiaKart, I’m pretty okay with that.

Though the way you worded the question has me worried anyway *sigh*

As a tangent to that, hopefully webadict isn’t doing what FoU would do.

You’re… starting the game in a… weird aggressive-but-not-particularly-useful way. Why did you choose those particular people to ask questions of?

Cat: while the stage of the game we’re at does include “random” in it, it’s usually a good idea to avoid randomness in choosing who to go after at this point. How do you think we’ll get to the point of choosing who to lynch D1, and how do you intend to contribute to that? How do you intend to make sure you’re not the flip we get information from?

PPE: and there goes Toaster, an experienced player, choosing someone at random, though at least only FoS’ing them… no bueno though, guy.

And FoU being super aggressive too!

I mean yeah whatever that sounds legit. I also like my legs

Lenglon