Roden today looks like the armed forces game... a bit, at least.
Quite busy. Don't elim TolyK while I'm gone.
I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that Roden looks like something in that game today, or are you telling Roden that today looks like that game?
Yeah, on reflection I don't think Roden was in that game.
I was mixing him up with Lidku... Roden today has reminded me of Lidku in that game. Irritated "kicking against the pricks" responses to insouciant town play like Webadict's, some good points but a lot of just getting tilted unnecessarily.
It's more dubious coming from Roden than Lidku, as Roden has quite a bit more experience. But it's still what a town player struggling against a bloc of vets that refuse to admit their own fallibility looks like. What Web did
was weird, and Max's passive-aggressive comment
was a poke at Roden, etc.
@NJW2000: Does your double-vote only work today, or throughout the game?
I'm afraid it's more complicated than that. I don't really want to give more information at this time.
Jim & NJW2000 seem the most suspicious out of those voters, although NQT's computer mig be hacking my system.
Uh huh. Why? You've given a lot of information in the thread, but no analysis. I know you're generally helpful with votecounts and summaries, but you gotta show your reasoning too.
NJW: Have you been able to form any reads based on what you've seen since your last post? What's your opinion on NQT right now?
I'll post reads below.
NQT seems to be trying to help town, and is well outside his scum-meta. The robot RP is disguising tone, and I was a bit concerned when he directly copied my vote on TolyK and FoS on Nakeen, but other than that seems ok.
NJW2000 - Toony and Webadict are high volume users. Are there any signs you scan for to ascertain if they are scum?
They're very good players, I don't have tells for them. Sometimes scum!Web seems to be genuinely trying to just screw me over rather than read me if we clash enough D1, but it's quite hard to be sure.
NJW [Okay maybe vote?]: they are on TolyK but maybe no? I don't get why they are though, it just felt so sudden. Okay the more I think about it, the more it seems suspicious. Then again I would wait to see what else they have to say about TolyK.
Ok, you're new so I'm going to explain this. In the future, if you don't understand why someone does something, ask. You might catch scum.
I voted TolyK for basically
activelurking; and for repeatedly posting while doing nothing to advance town. This is made clear in my post.
In other news, TolyK hasn't responded. Not really sure how to respond to that, but my pressure votes are now definitely "I'd be pretty ok with seeing this person eliminated" votes.
Brief reads, as it's a large game and some players are barely here.
Town:Tric - this feels like town!Tric.
Some town equity from roleclaim.
Knightwing - They've been giving their thoughts on the game, offering input, etc, all of which signals town!Knightwing. It's a very low bar, but right now they're over it.
Roden - this is more aggressive, less structured and more fragmented than the typical Roden scum D1s. From what I've seen of his thought processes, I think he is genuinely frustrated. His fake-anger usually involves more textwalls. The play hasn't been particularly helpful, but I think it's town nonetheless.
Lean Town:NQT - very active, engaging... Scum!NQT seldom this willing to directly and firmly contradict people. This may be a meta-read, but they're a pretty good mafia player, so it's about what I can go on for now.
Jim - need to see more from them but thus far helpful with reasonable insights, and not powerwolfing. Yes, I have too many meta-reads, but they're easy and reading games this big is tiring.
Null:MaximumSpin - I can't read them.
Vector - I'm going to wait until they start playing.
Web - I'm ambivalent. On the one hand, they were a little erratic with the Tric defence, and they generally have a pretty firm D1 elim choice whereas today they seem to be setting up a situation where they're not held responsible for the elim or avoid it altogether. Suspect. On the other hand, they seem to be avoiding unnecessary arguments, which is a good sign as scum!web usually comes out on top of these.
Juicebox - some
bad questions that could basically be "post reads pls", kinda worrying. The rest of their play has been pretty helpful though. Not sure.
Lean Scum:Nakeen - they may be new, but their main focus doesn't seem to be on the thread... I get "reading something else" vibes - scumchat? FG&RP/RTD people are good at trawling threads. Also, a lot of the reasoning in
this post looks not just bad but forced. And it's the only time they really offer opinions on other players - little apparent interest in catching scum.
Toony - They don't give much away, but they're posting slightly below their usual standard. Seem to want to put my elim on the table, but can't give a real case for it. They usually have a positive lynch candidate D1. Also, a lot of fluff. More than Web.
Scum:TolyK - because their entire play has been activelurking or absenteeism. I don't know their meta, but they don't seem thick or inexperienced, so playing this way doesn't really given me a choice.
QuestionsNakeen: Did you read any mafia games, or play any online ones outside bay12 before this?
Toony: are you genuinely floating me as an elim because you can't read me or Vector because they are yet to post? Why can't you do something better - like a POE at least?
EuchreJack: question is above, in spoiler, mouse hand tired. Sorry.
More to come at some point, but need to reread.
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