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[TricMagic]

Well, Matchmake was supposedly a Day ability, so it still lines up. But that could be lying, not that it currently matters.

[Vector]

Guys, remember that Reverie was sure there was a time-delayed NK?

[TricMagic]

Guys, remember that Reverie was sure there was a time-delayed NK?

Doesn't quite fit given the Mafiakill is Night, not day. And there has been one kill every night.

What was Blue's full claim?

[Vector]

I actually didn't !none. My action failed -- I was trying to put a mushroom colony on Jim (I got to do that because Reverie died). I'm now effectively a VT.

Let's think carefully about the possibilities.


From my perspective:

We aren't at LYLO unless scum can double-kill or double-vote somehow.

I think that Toaster's actions have been tracked and observed enough that they're all but confirmed. This, and Toaster isn't big on bussing. They made a number of end-of-day posts D1 immediately attacking FoU and NQT.

Reverie (town) has repeatedly confirmed being repeatedly blocked by Secret. If Secret was on the scumteam, they would know that they were making actions (=wands) from NQT that was giving town inspects. Secret is not mafia.

Tric is town, or at least as town as I am.


There is a possibility that continuously comes to mind: namely that the last scum could be 3rd-party, in other words that there was a 2P scumteam and 2 unconventional SKs. I think this is a little bit unbalanced against the scumteam, but it would mean a few things:

1. The mafiateam might be more protective of each other. We did see that this game.
2. The interactions might not quite look "right."

I don't actually think this is the case. I think we have a 3P scumteam, but I needed to get it out there.


I also want us to recall that BK was at the very top of Jim's scumlist for hanging back and acting scummy, and not having any meaningful interactions all game. Let's take off the tinfoil hats for a minute:

- We've got someone who keeps tracking the most towny people in the game, despite being down to two scum two nights in a row. Why track me twice? That doesn't really make sense.
- No meaningful interactions with others in the entire game
- No cases on others/using the vote

Let's stop being stupid for two minutes. What *makes the most sense*?


It's not case closed, but it's a start. If you think we shouldn't launch BK for some reason, tell me why.

And there has been one kill every night.

Not the night Toony died.

{P3} (Night) Time Delay [target]
Encase the target’s spell in time stasis, delaying the target's spell by one Cycle. If the target's spell was targeting you, you can redirect it to another player of your choice.
Tags: {Abjuration}

[Vector]

Blah, there were too many numbers and things that sound like "2" in this post. Should be "down to 1 scum for 2 nights in a row."


Unvote. Let me think about this one more time.

This is LYLO for scum. We have two masons.

If Tric and I get down to 3P LYLO -- the other guy dies.

If only one of Tric or I dies -- we flip as masons, whichever townie is left votes out scum with the other mason.

The only scenario in which scum wins is if one of Tric or I gets launched today, and then they successfully NK the other one at night.

Blu didn't do the kill probably as I blocked him and got a wand. I got superspeed from toaster so he is also probably town. That leaves tricmagic and vector to have performed the kill. We are probably at LYLO so no votes PLEASE. Anyone got anything else?

Either it was a delayed kill or toaster likes buffing town despite being mafia or:
Vector and tricmagic are mafia pretending to be masons/tric converted vector.
What did everyone do last night?

I followed Vector and Toaster last night, with my already made skeletons. Mu slell to make a third one was role-blocked, that skeleton was targeted at Secret.


Vector did nothing last night, and Toaster did three spells.

... guys what are skeletons made from

Concurrently, I think there is only two possibilities- a Tric-Vector converted team, or Toaster.

Secret, voting Tric for pointing out your mistakes isn't reason for jumping on him. At this point, it's either you or Toaster - if you really thought Tric-Vector were the remaining scum, you should have blocked one of them last night, not me.

I want you to explain, Secret. As well, I want to see the wand.

Of course you would. Bluarian Knight.

[Vector]

BK has previously stated that the skeleton-maker is an auto, and has not claimed an ability to make skeletons from living players. This is it.

[BluarianKnight]

BK has previously stated that the skeleton-maker is an auto, and has not claimed an ability to make skeletons from living players. This is it.

This is a lie.

I'm putting my response together - do not try to hammer before then.

[Vector]

an auto that lets me cast an ability while dead

You're right, I misremembered.


Actually, here's another question. Secret, what boost did you get from Tric? Jim got the stone calendar -- what did you get?

[Vector]

Blah, unvote again. I'm too excited. Time to do some math and clear my head.

[TricMagic]

Toaster, can you use the same action multiple times? In which case, prioritizing yourself and redirecting actions against Vector and I to yourself?


Excitement is expected. And that is probably why Jim ended up dying, honestly.

Blue, what does Jim's tool do?

[TricMagic]

Web, do people flip with any items on them?

[BluarianKnight]

I'll lay my claim out now - first off, DotD is my doing.

I am the Necromancer. My main abilities are to summon servants to track and find out the flavor text of a user, and what they've done that night, to read and speak to deadchat, an auto that lets me cast an ability while dead, and Day of the Dead.

This night, I sent my summoned minion after Tric - whom targeted Vector. He is a 'wicked witch'. Can you confirm this, Tric?

Also - Day of the Dead means they can vote - but cannot be voted for. In short, I've just brought us back to D1, without Lucky (who is banned, for obvious reasons.)
Oh, also - FoU. for now, but I think we should try to smoke out our third mafioso before he's ganked.

FAKEEDIT: Not going to actually vote him, because I don't want to end the day quickly either.

This is my claim. Here's my actions each day;

N1 - Summon first skeleton, follow Jim - he goes after Toony.
N2 - Follow Tric with first skeleton, he targets Vector. Cast Day of the Dead.
N3 - Summon second skeleton, follows Jim - who targets Toaster. First skeleton follows Vector, redirected to Toaster, who does 3 actions.
N4 - Roleblocked, first skeleton follows Vector, no action. Second skeleton follows Toaster, 3 actions again.

Looking back, I actually realize I did get some flavor on Vector tonight - Vector, do you do anything with rocks, and making tools on them?

I actually didn't !none. My action failed -- I was trying to put a mushroom colony on Jim (I got to do that because Reverie died). I'm now effectively a VT.

Let's think carefully about the possibilities.


From my perspective:

We aren't at LYLO unless scum can double-kill or double-vote somehow.

I think that Toaster's actions have been tracked and observed enough that they're all but confirmed. This, and Toaster isn't big on bussing. They made a number of end-of-day posts D1 immediately attacking FoU and NQT.

Reverie (town) has repeatedly confirmed being repeatedly blocked by Secret. If Secret was on the scumteam, they would know that they were making actions (=wands) from NQT that was giving town inspects. Secret is not mafia.

Tric is town, or at least as town as I am.


There is a possibility that continuously comes to mind: namely that the last scum could be 3rd-party, in other words that there was a 2P scumteam and 2 unconventional SKs. I think this is a little bit unbalanced against the scumteam, but it would mean a few things:

1. The mafiateam might be more protective of each other. We did see that this game.
2. The interactions might not quite look "right."

I don't actually think this is the case. I think we have a 3P scumteam, but I needed to get it out there.


I also want us to recall that BK was at the very top of Jim's scumlist for hanging back and acting scummy, and not having any meaningful interactions all game. Let's take off the tinfoil hats for a minute:

- We've got someone who keeps tracking the most towny people in the game, despite being down to two scum two nights in a row. Why track me twice? That doesn't really make sense.
- No meaningful interactions with others in the entire game
- No cases on others/using the vote

Let's stop being stupid for two minutes. What *makes the most sense*?


It's not case closed, but it's a start. If you think we shouldn't launch BK for some reason, tell me why.

And there has been one kill every night.

Not the night Toony died.

{P3} (Night) Time Delay [target]
Encase the target’s spell in time stasis, delaying the target's spell by one Cycle. If the target's spell was targeting you, you can redirect it to another player of your choice.
Tags: {Abjuration}

I think my play's been reserved, but using that as a scumtell is poor workmanship - Your analysis relies on a few factors;
A) Ignoring all evidence of actual action play, and that I can kill through role-blocks,
B) That the night-kill from Toony's day was 'delayed', not blocked or otherwise, or maybe not done at all.
C) You and Tric are righteous Townies

Toaster casts three spells a turn - can, at least, and one of them is impossible to confirm - the -1 priority.
Secret's towntell is based around him fearing being investigated - he's been hiding, held back and avoiding taking spotlight. Even then - he doesn't need to give those wands away. He could figure out town, abilities, all that.
You and Tric just have.. each other to confirm that you're town.

BK has previously stated that the skeleton-maker is an auto, and has not claimed an ability to make skeletons from living players. This is it.

Read my claims. Making a skeleton is my main ability - my auto is to talk to deadchat - something I have been doing all game.

Blah, there were too many numbers and things that sound like "2" in this post. Should be "down to 1 scum for 2 nights in a row."


Unvote. Let me think about this one more time.

This is LYLO for scum. We have two masons.

If Tric and I get down to 3P LYLO -- the other guy dies.

If only one of Tric or I dies -- we flip as masons, whichever townie is left votes out scum with the other mason.

The only scenario in which scum wins is if one of Tric or I gets launched today, and then they successfully NK the other one at night.

Seeing that you're on the train - let's lay out the options.

Scum can only kill once a day, so if this outline is correct - Voting Secret today doesn't cause us to lose. If you or Tric dies, then you and the other town will vote me out. If Toaster dies, then you and Tric vote me out. If I die, you and Tric vote Toaster out.

If you and Tric are voted today, then we'll know one of you is scum or town - but then the other probably dies, and then we're left with one of you Masons, me, Toaster, and Secret - whoever's lynched, it'll become a three way that'll be 50-50 town or scum.

Why Secret? His recent actions are shady, and he might be building up a wand-collection as mafia. Out of any possibility, he's probably the most threatening as a possible mafia even so. Unless he can lay out a better defense then 'tric is shady and I did stuff'. He has no auto - everyone else I've seen so far has, he has multiple days of no activities - and you're letting him off?

[TricMagic]

There is also the fact he did receive an item from me, much as Jim got one from Vector. If it's an ability, it should have flipped with him, if it's an item, do those flip in webadict games? If so, that means dorf stole the thing.

There has been one kill every night Vector. One thing to bring up, is Lock Away an auto of sorts? In that case, kills can be made even with that active. And I'm doubting that he doesn't know what his wands actually do, passing on a wand that protects from kills is good towncred, as is one for investigating someone he knows is town to bus NQT. He doesn't have day actions because there was no tricks he can reveal on that day.

Lock Away gives him a free wand on N0 that protects Rev.(Likely Fal was the target.)
Lock Away is used on NQT, he kills 4mask that night. NQT can claim he was blocked.
Lock Away is used on Rev, it gets delayed to the Day. The Wand has a Pardon ability to give someone extra time. Toony died that night.
Lock Away used on Rev, get another wand next day. Caz dies that night.
Lock Away on Blue, what wand did he get? Jim died last night.

This series of events means he doesn't need some special action to give a wand away. All his actions line up perfectly if Lock Away is an Auto. Hence why he doesn't have one.

[webadict]

Web, do people flip with any items on them?

Roleflips are based on the role as it initially stood.

[TricMagic]

Got the and Blue? Or anyone really.