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Author Topic: Old Planet - AGE OF GHOSTS  (Read 13857 times)

RoseHeart

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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2019, 04:50:20 pm »

Eh, how 'bout I just roll the order: 2 1 4 3

Navy <---first
Yellow
Maroon
Teal <---last

Change or remove a relationship in any region.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2019, 09:29:23 pm »

Fluff teaches the northeastern elves to behave more like elves and conserve the northeastern Snowstubs.

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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2019, 11:30:13 am »

Fluff teaches the northeastern elves to behave more like elves and conserve the northeastern Snowstubs.
1. You will be fought over this.
2. It’s not that they don’t still herd and protect their snowstubs; it’s just that this is an addition to their previous behavior that I wasn’t allowed to actually put in in that format because the rules at this point only allow us to change relationships, not add them, for some inscrutable reason. The use of a red-colored relationship is intended for displaying the actual balance of influence in the relationship.

3. Anyway, in the northwest, water sprites turn the tables on their tealcat ambushers and capture them to use as pets.

4. Seriously Roseheart let us make new relationships instead of just altering old ones. The current restriction makes no sense.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 11:32:48 am by Glass »
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2019, 12:25:22 pm »

change relationships, not add them

1. In the way you mean you still can. My understanding though is your main motivator is to make Elves more intelligent than Snubs.

2. There are now 4 times as many relationships technically speaking, no, no more.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2019, 12:43:21 pm »

change relationships, not add them

1. In the way you mean you still can. My understanding though is your main motivator is to make Elves more intelligent than Snubs.

2. There are now 4 times as many relationships technically speaking, no, no more.
My main motivator is that it’s now impossible for any two organisms that didn’t already have a relationship to ever get one, as well as the fact that, logically, most relationships between organisms don’t change into different ones but instead gain new facets. The current system just doesn’t make any sense for the actual design of relationships.
And I’m not asking to be the only one allowed to do this, mate. That would be dumb. Yes, I would use it to make the elves more intelligent, as others would doubtlessly use it to make their chosen species smarter as well. But it’s hardly something that would purely benefit me.
How, precisely, would added relationships be more difficult than the other systems? Each quarter will have its own relationship map, and adding, changing, and removing relationships should all be single-step alterations.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #110 on: April 16, 2019, 12:47:13 pm »

but instead gain new facets
That's what we are doing.

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The current system just doesn’t make any sense
I guess my forum game wont be used in classrooms. Bummer.

Glass, more important than realism is pacing and viability. I wholeheartedly endorse your decree you could do it better. Show me. Host the next one.

Maroon's turn.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #111 on: April 16, 2019, 12:55:48 pm »

Thank you for your feedback Glass. But it is unfair to me to expect I will change the parameters to the game, from what I described when you joined.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #112 on: April 16, 2019, 01:02:10 pm »

Thank you for your feedback Glass. But it is unfair to me to expect I will change the parameters to the game, from what I described when you joined.
I am fully aware that these rules were in the OP from the start. However, I was making my case for why, now that we’re actually using them, I feel them to be flawed.
Playtesting is a thing for a reason. It’s much easier to see an issue when it’s in progress than from just looking at the rules of play.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2019, 01:21:08 pm »

Yes, so please continue to give more. one of the greatest things about forum games over other games is they can change. But be ready to accept the big fat no when it comes.

Seriously, based on your experience managing that mage guild, you are a Forum Game Designer screaming to crawl out of their shell. I hope I do get to play Glass' Old Planet, some day.

(poking FFG to go.)
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« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2019, 09:58:50 pm »

Fluff teaches the northeastern elves to behave more like elves and conserve the northeastern Snowstubs.
1. You will be fought over this.
Git 'im, Fluff!
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #115 on: April 17, 2019, 08:38:47 pm »

Yellow, you want to commit to that battle?
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2019, 09:00:54 pm »

Yes.
Since it's them encroaching on my land, I get a +2, correct?
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2019, 09:10:07 pm »

You do.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2019, 11:02:24 am »

Felius teaches the ♥Magicats♥ to use ♣Suntree♣ branches as primitive tools for hunting and digging for roots.

♥Tealcats♥ live in ♣Suntrees♣ -> ♥Tealcats♥ make tools from ♣Suntree branches♣.
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Re: Old Planet
« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2019, 11:05:47 am »

Felius teaches the ♥Magicats♥ to use ♣Suntree♣ branches as primitive tools for hunting and digging for roots.

♥Tealcats♥ live in ♣Suntrees♣ -> ♥Tealcats♥ make tools from ♣Suntree branches♣.
Another example of why the alteration system doesn’t work. You can’t show that someone is now getting even more utility out of something than they were before.
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