So you're saying that someone jusy happened to frame you the same night? Of course, that's what a scum would say.
Well, I don't see any other explanation? I mean, I know
you have an alternate theory, but I have information to which you are not privy, viz., my actual alignment. it might seem like a coincidence to you, but to me, it's just the natural deduction.
We could lynch you, if you flip town town can lyng me. Otherwise, town can lynch me and when I flip town we lynch you. Currently, I see there's more evidence against you than against me, so I would rather go with the option of lynching you first.
there's not really any evidence against either of us, just word vs. word, and of
course you would prefer that, and also, your aggressiveness is kind of making me rethink my previous position of assuming good faith here
I'm willing to die for town just so they have a confirmed scum, but you don't seem willing to die from the wording of your post. Mafia, having less numbers and the task of surviving, would want to continue in the game and avoid dying.
But dying wouldn't, as I pointed out, prove anything. And my dying would prove even less. And yes, I would
prefer to keep playing, because that was the point of joining the game.
As a general rule, I always want to avoid dying, because, um, duh? Every town member who dies, especially from getting lynched, is one step closer to the mafia winning. And if I were you, and town, I wouldn't want to die just because I
think I have found one scum member, either. That's really irresponsible play, honestly. I'm not convinced it's scummy, but it might be?
This day, both of us are good lynches. I would rather see one of us die than wasting the day with something like abstaining. Maybe if someone else had a invetigation result that would confirm someone as scum. With the information I have, you are scum. Since you are scum, I probably shouldn't believe or trust anything you say.
I don't think either of us are good lynches, and the fact that you claim we are, and are clearly pushing really hard for it to be me and not you, is really suspicious to me. And besides, if someone else had an investigation result, that wouldn't confirm anything either; we could assume (which seems probable) that at most
one of the people 'confirmed' is framed, unless there is an excess of framing (which can't be ruled out), but that doesn't tell us much about which. This is like... the whole point of daygame, you know? It sounds like you're working on a kind of follow-the-cop stratagem but that's not really functional in a game like this. I just want to not bandwagon (and, yes, not
be bandwagoned, because it is boring and sucks and I'll have to find something else to do) on day 2 when there is still a possibility of acting on this information
later and still more useful information to be gathered now.
And honestly, this whole thing about being tunnelled really in tight to your result being true instead of considering other possibilities feels more like a fakeclaim you didn't expect to get pushback on, rather than the alternative. Although even that would be a really stupid play, because why burn yourself so tho... -roughly (for killing off one probably unimportant town player) is what I was going to say until I realised that I'm giving you plausible deniability here. Fuck. It's going to be "Oh shit, I guess he was really framed, well, what are the chances that can happen twice, huh?", isn't it? And if you actually do have a frame you could even
back it up, although as hector points out it might not be likely (although a frame as an adjunct to another role or with heavy restrictions or maybe part of a joat kind of thing? wouldn't surprise me).
Oh, and I forgot about redirects. Even if I assume you are town, how do any of us know your investigation was really of
me and you don't just think it was? But this is all besides the --
intermission: I have this habit of hitting 'preview' pretty often as I type, which is why I know there are now MORE POSTS for me to catch up on and respond to, THANKS BLUETURTLE
-- uh, right, besides the point because I'm already suspecting RGU of faking it outright now. Although, Hec: I feel like the fact that the mafia-ally's "gadgets" are all one-shots, and there's no guarantee that the mafia-ally even
finds mafia successfully to use it on, makes the possibility that there are similar abilities with
different restrictions floating around much more likely. Like, I don't know, maybe a frame-redirect combo where the user takes a potential bullet for the framee? That seems like the kind of thing Fallacy would do.
Purely speculative, though, and I have no strong reason not to think RGU isn't just bullshitting now, although I still strongly suggest not lynching either of us
yet because this is not strong evidence either way.
Also, hec, if I was on scumteam with blueturtle I woulda tried harder to stop him from going off half-cocked and saying things in discord all the time.
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