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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #180 on: August 14, 2017, 02:39:42 pm »

Hmm. crazyabe, would you be okay with supporting RDS instead of Cattle? It's basically the same idea. Only without the blind part. Why are the Cattle blind?

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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #181 on: August 14, 2017, 02:44:31 pm »

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« Reply #182 on: August 14, 2017, 02:45:10 pm »

If I had to guess I'd say to cut cost. I'm now torn between game management, RDS, and the brain bug. I wouldn't want RDS on all the bugs,  out actual troops should continue to have hypo or obligate carnivorous digestive systems but the "cevilian workers should be able to get away with RDS
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« Reply #183 on: August 14, 2017, 02:46:30 pm »

Don't we want to win the front one? New units, technologies, tactics can help, very slow long term turns that do nothing but provide more food can't. +Few% to reinforcements this turn don't impress me much.

All this proposals of "do nothing for the frontline, get more food" don't look great for me. We  wasted the first turn on this.

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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #184 on: August 14, 2017, 02:55:31 pm »

We got +6% reinforcement when we rolled a 3 on a revision.

A successful manpower increase design could do a lot of good.
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #185 on: August 14, 2017, 03:00:49 pm »

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Switching to RDS, I suppose we can do brain caste another time.
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« Reply #186 on: August 14, 2017, 03:07:14 pm »

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« Reply #187 on: August 14, 2017, 03:09:45 pm »

Don't we want to win the front one? New units, technologies, tactics can help, very slow long term turns that do nothing but provide more food can't. +Few% to reinforcements this turn don't impress me much.

All this proposals of "do nothing for the frontline, get more food" don't look great for me. We  wasted the first turn on this.
To your last point, we rolled two ones. That turn was wasted by the dice.

Anyway, I don't see us losing ground on the first front this turn. Even without the fort bonus we were ahead last turn, and they suffered more losses than they received reinforcements, whilst for us the opposite was true. So even if they move their aphrokema over, I doubt we'll lose any ground, and that's assuming we roll another one and get nothing from this design.

Our troops are already superior to theirs. Our only problem is a lack of manpower, which RDS would go some way to solving.
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #188 on: August 14, 2017, 03:25:50 pm »

Well, they could try to adjust their manpower flow.

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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #189 on: August 14, 2017, 03:26:37 pm »

Hmm. crazyabe, would you be okay with supporting RDS instead of Cattle? It's basically the same idea. Only without the blind part. Why are the Cattle blind?
the way I see it, Each "Part" is a bit more cost, thus cutting out parts unneeded for their function is a decent solution for Reducing their price, Cattle were designed to be both a source of food, and a way to store food, thus they did not require to "See" the whole area around them, only to receive basic mental feedback about the area from other drones in the area. They were not designed with direct combat in mind, rather they were designed to maximize the amount of food we could store and produce, Increasing the number of drones which could be deployed in total.
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« Reply #190 on: August 14, 2017, 04:11:03 pm »

Game management:
Instead of simply hunting out and denuding the area of all resources we now take a much more measured approach to our hunting and gathering. Although predatory species are deliberately hunted out to remove competition herbivores herds are culled at a smaller scale to insure a future supply.
BTW, I like this but I think this is a revision. This makes hunting more effective. Sure, we will eat grass soon and  there will be no reason to not exterminate herbivores...

I want us to work on tech more. Doing nothing but genetic improvements is one dimensional.
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #191 on: August 14, 2017, 04:36:20 pm »

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I can appreciate digesting grass.
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« Reply #192 on: August 14, 2017, 05:40:38 pm »

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We design a new carapace for use with our drones. It has thick ridges to deflect and hold the points of artillery bolts and long spines to add a great effective increase to thickness against arrows with only a large increase in weight. Ideally this would be mounted upon an unusually large gender of worker. These would act as armoured shields providing a heavy vanguard behind which our workers could advance.



I would like to concentrate on revisions for our food needs. We already have the X.E.D.S. and can revise it into something usable. It has terrible terrible rolls so a revision should be quite powerful, whereas a new design would be starting completely from scratch.

Game management also would seem to be a revision to our existing hunting. Whereas proper domestication would be a new design, or maybe just two revisions?

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« Reply #193 on: August 14, 2017, 05:53:07 pm »

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I would like to concentrate on revisions for our food needs. We already have the X.E.D.S. and can revise it into something usable. It has terrible terrible rolls so a revision should be quite powerful, whereas a new design would be starting completely from scratch.
Wrong. We'll need to roll few times to get something usable of that. Designing again will cost less actions. I still dislike spending an action to get a modest reinforcement rate increase (manpower cap increase is even less useful) but designing is far better than revising a complete failure.

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What this kind of proposal mean? Add wings to gene database laying there doing nothing? If you want wings why not describe flying version of the worker or outright new creature?
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #194 on: August 14, 2017, 05:55:34 pm »

I would like to concentrate on revisions for our food needs. We already have the X.E.D.S. and can revise it into something usable. It has terrible terrible rolls so a revision should be quite powerful.

I don't know if that thinking is accurate.  Why not improve something good?
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