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[Iituem]

Spoiler: Letter to Talarys Revande (click to show/hide)

Esteemed Alliance Leader Talarys Revande,

Based on your prior letter, my cartographers have drafted a border to limit future expansion between our nations.  The Principality of Pork will remain on the southern side of this border, the Alliance of Revande to the north.  The solid red line below indicates the proposed definite border, with two dotted lines demarcating a point which I would like to discuss with you.



The forests of South Owldale, highlighted in red hatching, form a crucial crossroads between nearly all of my nation's proposed expansion targets and our capital of Boar's Peak in Central Pork.  Per our initial discussions, this territory would be ceded to you, but of course you can see the strategic value of the forest.  I would therefore like to propose one of two courses of action.

A)  The first option, most desirable to my subjects, is to move the border to the dotted purple line, allowing us to take South Owldale.  We would be prepared to offer concessions for this, and would be more than happy to discuss the details further.  Our initial offer would be to pay a tribute equal to the base tax of the land at the time of conquest to the Alliance, for as long as we hold the territory.  This would essentially grant you additional funds without cost to yourselves.  We would then grant you military access through South Owldale should you need it yourself.

B)  The second course would be to go ahead with our initial discussions and draw the border at the dotted red line.  In that case, we would ask that you grant us a limited military access treaty through South Owldale, permitting the movement of troops and supplies via that territory to other lands.  In exchange, we would construct roads within South Owldale, saving you the cost of doing so yourself.  We would not, however, offer any other concessions.

It is my hope that we may come to an amicable agreement.

The Finest Regards,

Princess Gruntsnuffle of the House of Suidae
The Principality of Pork

Also, I have no idea what's in those letters between the Barnstocks and the Bannerlands, but either there's an argument, a terrifying alliance or an imminent war between them brewing, based on how many messengers are running between the kingdoms.  o_o

[Sheb]

Well, to be honest, I think you should surrender to us right now if you want any chance to save your bacon.

[Taricus]

I think you should kill Sheb for that horrible pun.

[Sheb]

I think you should kill Sheb for that horrible pun.

Ok, it's was a bit ham-fisted, but not that bad surely? I don't think Iituem will be pig-headed about this. It's not his sty-le.

[Criptfeind]

BTW: Can a trade route be created in the same turn that it becomes a possibility... Say if. Uh. Revakn takes W owldale, can we start trading with the Novatech right away if we leave a conditional and thus get the trade income for spending next turn... Or would we need to wait a turn and the official taking of the territory before we can sign the agreement?

Also I heard mention of surrender, are we already at the point where we surrender to Sheb? Because that normally takes place like, at least five turns into these games doesn't it? Seems a bit soon to start doing it on turn 2.

[Taricus]

Ok, it's was a bit ham-fisted, but not that bad surely? I don't think Iituem will be pig-headed about this. It's not his sty-le.

...Alright, those who wish to remove such dastardly and abhorrent punnery from Arcania say Aye.

[Kashyyk]

You need to start the turn in a state where you can open the trade route.

I suppose declaring Sheb the victor now would help avoid burnout on my part too, but I'd also feel that the effort I put into this wasn't worth it yet

Taricus, I may just be a glutton for pun-ishment but I think you're being a bit of a boar.

[Taricus]

Argh! The puns, they burn!

[Sheb]

Argh! The puns, they burn!

Hogwash. It snout my sty-le to make bad puns.

KAshyyk: Does that also mean that I need first to order a caravan to end its trip and can only sign a trade deal the next turn?

[Kashyyk]

KAshyyk: Does that also mean that I need first to order a caravan to end its trip and can only sign a trade deal the next turn?

Correct.

[Nirur Torir]

Can units move before loading onto a ship and sailing away?

[Kashyyk]

They can move before getting on the ship or after getting off,  but not both.

[Taricus]

Are caravans able to move onto water territories without a dedicated vessel to transport them?

[Iituem]

Pursuant to that, can you stage an amphibious assault on a territory?  i.e. If you move a ship from a sea territory onto a hostile land territory, do all the shipboard ground units attack with it, or only the ship?  Or do you have to move ground units from the sea territory onto the land territory to make the attack?  For that matter, can ships attack coastal targets themselves?

[Kashyyk]

Are caravans able to move onto water territories without a dedicated vessel to transport them?

Under the same restrictions add any other unit yes.  By which I mean it takes a whole turn to cross one sea space and it has to end its turn on land.

Pursuant to that, can you stage an amphibious assault on a territory?  i.e. If you move a ship from a sea territory onto a hostile land territory, do all the shipboard ground units attack with it, or only the ship?  Or do you have to move ground units from the sea territory onto the land territory to make the attack?  For that matter, can ships attack coastal targets themselves?

to avoid  the -8 penalty to amphibious landings,  the units must be transported by ship into the costal territory. Then all embarked units plus the ships will fight against any defending force.


On this theme, I am also considering splitting most of the ocean spaces into multiple smaller ones. Watch this space.