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Webadict: Hm. If in one night two kill actions hit a player with a one-shot autorevive, what happens?
Webadict: Please answer. Also, are players allowed to screenshot portions of a quicktopic and post them here?
I don't think so.
Well, I'm currently suspecting Tiruin for not having ANY suspects more than I suspect you for the mafia avoiding your suspects, right now, actually, so I'm going to unvote you and vote her.
flabort: Alright. It seemed like there were a few links missing: why them not killing one of the people I voted for makes me look suspicious, what makes it look like they actively avoided my suspects, and why this doesn't point at anyone else whose vote targets weren't nightkilled. Can you clarify?
TheDarkStar: Can you explain what exactly changed your read on Pozzai from unreadable to non-evil third party?
TheDarkStar: I don't think you ever answered this.
Given that you didn't do this D1 this obviously isn't a mandatory post restriction, which almost certainly means that you can tell me about it if it exists, fallacy
4maskwolf: I don't see how his lack of NYAHNYAHNYAH D1 means it isn't a mandatory post restriction D2. Role changes seem to be quite a big thing in this game. Can you explain?
hector13: Ah, miller stuff. Quick overview:
The miller is the auto with the largest gap between initial intended effect and actual effect. They are intended to be an obstacle to cops. In practice, they are a boon.
Around here, they're pretty common. Standard practice is to claim miller D1, or at least before being inspected, if you're a miller. This is for a few reasons: no alignment inspects will be wasted on the miller (if the cops have any idea what they're doing), cops will be selecting targets from a smaller pool (making them generally more likely to hit scum), and building this norm means that scum cannot use "I'm a miller" as an excuse after being inspected. Each of these effects favours town, particularly alignment inspectors. Millers who are town, thus, almost always claim to be so D1.
Claiming as scum is less common, regardless of whether the scum is a miller or not (can happen in games like this: inspect as other scum type). It is a strategic decision in such cases, and generally an unusual one for one reason: when we see someone we can't alignment inspect, we tend to feel the need to look more closely and do a better daygame. That's in part because we exaggerate the importance of cops in complex games.
The general consensus is that a miller claim handled normally is generally (with situational exceptions) either a towntell or a nulltell, depending on how one sees the site meta. Town millers almost always claim, and they're pretty common. Scum rarely claims miller. Most miller claims thus end up being town. If a player believes that the ratio is significantly better than the base town-scum ratio, and that scum will continue to avoid millerclaiming even with this knowledge, towntell. If a player believes that the ratio is similar, or that scum will start claiming miller more often to take advantage of towntell beliefs (the natural cycle of site meta tells), more of a nulltell lean.
The daygame, in theory, shouldn't be all that different with millers, though Miller Theory often ends up flooding the game when they're involved. The primary method of alignment determination is daygame discussion, and miller claimants can at least be power/role-inspected.
Fallacy Stuff[1]: I assure you, I would be questioning TolyK a lot more if he responded to me more, nyah. My vote is still on TolyK since I think he is scum, nyah. So far, he hasn't really countered my allegations, so my vote remains on him, nyah. If he tried to counter my allegations(besides by actually scumhunting, anyway), I would respond and do that pursuing thing you're talking about, nyah.
Stop using TolyK as an excuse to sit around and do nothing. Not only have you done almost nothing regarding TolyK, but you're also doing almost nothing regarding anyone else with the excuse that you're too focused on dealing with TolyK.
[5]: Did you miss the post where I made a case on TolyK based on his lack of scumhunting, nyah?
I am quite aware of that, initially a secondary component of your case. You, however, have decided to avoid my point: while the primary portion of your case got negative feedback, you did nothing to try to persuade. You did nothing to stabilize a failing component and you did nothing to redirect your critics to the secondary component. When you sort-of-largely dropped the cult leader part and started just repeating the secondary portion, you did nothing to try to persuade. You made the occasional statement to show you still were voting for TolyK, but kept to the background. As days went by and nobody joined you, you did nothing to try to persuade. Instead of
trying to persuade us to lynch your target, you
tell us that you're trying to persuade us to lynch your target. Why?
Actually, here's a question for everybody: what is your read of TolyK, nyah? It seems to me that I'm the only one paying attention to him, nyah.
I'm cautious. Not the most active, in part clearly due to being busy. What he does get in is focused on using his role, and he has given me reasons. The impression I currently have is misprioritization more than malice. Currently have a couple questions for him over there, as they involve material not yet public and I don't distrust him nearly enough to break privacy yet.
[8]: Is his lack of scumhunting not evidence enough, nyah? I did cite that in a case post, nyah. Do you not think a lack of scumhunting is scummy, nyah?
Are you defending your cult leader, nyah? 
I am aware of your point. A lack of scumhunting can be scummy in many contexts (albeit not all), such as one where the player obviously has time but does little more than try to portray themself as a serious contributor and scumhunter.
I love the insinuation of ill intent, joking or not. Why include that?
What does it matter, as long as I'm scumhunting, nyah?
Why do you put so much effort into announcing this and similar things? Why is your self-portrayal so important?
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