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[VoidSlayer]

my vote is to steal the IR

they decomplexified it for us and everything

Stolen stuff is automatically complex even if we make a perfect copy.

[VoidSlayer]

Sarukh is a pile of hot garbage at this point, it is stated to be far shorter range than their autoloading artillery gun, and was said to have about the effective firing rate of conventional artillery since it takes so long to load.  We should design an all new MLRS thing or drop the idea entirely.

The problem is similar real world designs for things like this were used for mass bombardment not anything accurate, so I think focusing on reloading speed would make them actually effective since they are already cheap.  Get dozens of them firing at a location and it doesn't matter if they are inaccurate at range, everything is getting hit.

The effective range is only low because it is trying to accurately hit targets at that range.  The theoretical range is actually impressive.

[RAM]

the fact that it's not complex now means we don't get [COMPLEX]x2 when we steal it.

Stolen stuff is automatically complex even if we make a perfect copy.

Does double complex actually exist?

[Wizgrot]

UF-TB-44 “Sharkbait” MPB

In desperate times, desperate measures ensue. Our military has recruited the aid of the United Forenian Nautical Clubs Asociation (UFNCA), in order to design a way to finally give us the edge we need at the sea in order to disrupt the enemy advantage at the sea.

The UF-TB-44 “Sharkbait” multipurpouse boat is an extensive modification of our shallow water motorboats of civilian usage. Lightly armored to resist light machine gun rounds, its main armament is two modified  Dolphin torpedoes for better range and speed. It can also be fitted with a Sarukh rocket artillery system or a Velocirraptor autocannon at is middle, with the operators protected by an shield. Optionally, it can leave its torpedoes at home in order to lave space to serve as an impromptu troop transport or carry Whalesong mines to act as a minelayer.

We expect that its shallow water capacities will able it to act in the rivers of the jungle or any terrain with sufficient water sources. However, the engineer design team has spent the last dregs of the budget in order to build a suitable frame that will able modified models with it to fight the Cannalan Navy in the high sea.

[VoidSlayer]

What if we mounted anti missile capability on our motorcycles as escorts to our tanks.  At best they could fire off stuff to distract the missiles, at worst they could be super cheap targets for the missiles to hit instead.

I mean not very humane or morale or moral building but you know desperate times.

[ConscriptFive]

UFAF-ACC-43 'Shepard'
"Stand among the graves of thousands of dead Forenians and ask the ghosts if honor matters.  The silence is your answer."
Some old-timers deride the new era of "push button warfare."  All as if there was more honor in the traditional mano-a-mano aerial dogfight of days past.  A true knight of the skies doesn't need RADAR, missiles or even wingmen.  The Shepard aerial command center aims to put that notion to rest.
Visually identified by its characteristic radome, the tried and true Reckless Effect airframe has been modified into a flying command center.  The airframe has plenty of space to mount a de-complexified Deadliest Ray RADAR system, essentially bringing the command tower forward to the fight.  No longer can maverick flyboys ignore commands from base claiming "poor comms."  Fighter jocks are irked by this development, but are at least glad to have RADAR 'sheparding' their maneuvers now.  To meet complaints from Haast aviators about "never being pointed to anything good to blow up," the command center compartment includes CAS liason officer on a common-air-ground frequency radio to direct in-air assets to fleeting targets of opportunity.  Entirely a support C3 asset, the airframe mounts no weapons itself, and relies upon high altitude operation, counter measures, and coordination of air superiority assets as defense.  More skittish officers request a pressurized cabin and electric coffee pot to entice them out of their cozy offices, but engineers remain skeptic.

[evictedSaint]

my vote is to steal the IR

they decomplexified it for us and everything

Stolen stuff is automatically complex even if we make a perfect copy.

I know. Because it is decomplexed, stealing it now means it won't be [COMPLEX]×2.

[Madman198237]

If we just de-[Complex] our radar, they will be Cheap on the sea and at most Expensive on the air, unless we want to try and sneak them into the Reckless or something, in which case they could be Cheap in the air, too.

Either one should give us a serious air advantage again, and I'd even dare to hope for a naval advantage.

[ConscriptFive]

my vote is to steal the IR

they decomplexified it for us and everything

Stolen stuff is automatically complex even if we make a perfect copy.

I know. Because it is decomplexed, stealing it now means it won't be [COMPLEX]×2.

It's the Piracy Warning all over again though.  We blow the roll, we get nothing.  ...and even if we get a solid roll, we need another revision action just to de-complex it enough to field it.  I think those three actions might have just been Cannala getting bad rolls anyway.

Also Ctrl+F the battle reports for Aswang.  As tacticool as infantry-based night vision sounds, the battle reports have been pretty negative on it.  Although it's a key foundation tech, I'm not sure it's worth a high risk action.

[Kashyyk]

(2) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS
(1)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk

[Madman198237]

(2) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS
(2)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman

[evictedSaint]

UF-MINE-43 "Firewire"

A variation of the wildly successful Firecracker bomb, the Firewire is an easy-to-deploy area-denial weapon that operates on the exact same altitude-based dispersion method. Commonly deployed by air, this new weapon disperses Wizzy mines (3Kg, Anti-Personnel), a simple variation on our existing mines.  These mines are sturdy enough to survive being dropped out of a plane and arm themselves shortly after being deployed.  They are possible to detect with metal detectors, but the main purpose is to slow down enemy advancement and force them to advance along chosen chokepoints.  The Wizzy mines are small and dark-colored, and easily hidden beneath foliage and dirt.

Additionally, Dizzy (10 kg, Anti-Tank) mines can be intermixed into the deployment package to prevent armor from easily punching through mined areas. 

These mines are sensitive enough to detonate when stepped on or tampered with.  They come camouflaged and self-deactivate after a period of three months.

[piratejoe]

I know I haven't really been playing at all in the slightest as of late but...I just realized and wanted to point out, we don't really have a tactical bomber, just cas and fighters.

[Powder Miner]

(2) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS
(3)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner

[VoidSlayer]

UF-MINE-43 "Firewire"

A variation of the wildly successful Firecracker bomb, the Firewire is an easy-to-deploy area-denial weapon that operates on the exact same altitude-based dispersion method. Commonly deployed by air, this new weapon disperses Wizzy mines (3Kg, Anti-Personnel), a simple variation on our existing mines.  These mines are sturdy enough to survive being dropped out of a plane and arm themselves shortly after being deployed.  They are possible to detect with metal detectors, but the main purpose is to slow down enemy advancement and force them to advance along chosen chokepoints.  The Wizzy mines are small and dark-colored, and easily hidden beneath foliage and dirt.

Additionally, Dizzy (10 kg, Anti-Tank) mines can be intermixed into the deployment package to prevent armor from easily punching through mined areas. 

These mines are sensitive enough to detonate when stepped on or tampered with.  They come camouflaged and self-deactivate after a period of three months.

Can we deploy them with rockets.