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[None]

Wasn't the right actively demanding the unsealing of information like this on the basis that
there were no documents
he had the right to have those documents
 he declassified those documents
someone planted those documents in maralago
 some lawyer fucked up
 they were absolutely secured to standard
he's still the president

and therefore it's a witch-hunt if the fed didn't come clean with what they have?

Bullshit aside- what's supposed to be in those folders? Where's the documents?

[Telgin]

I'm already seeing people say, "lol the folders are empty so he didn't take anything after all."

I'm sure every document had tracking information so the government knows precisely what's missing, and losing classified documents has to be at least as bad as taking them in the first place.  It is really frustrating to keep seeing people correctly say that anyone else would already be in prison, but Trump is going to keep dragging and delaying until something stupid happens and he gets off with a slap on the wrist.  Something like the 2024 election.

Actually, for that matter, I guess if he or another Republican won the 2024 election, they could pardon even that kind of crime.  It's all federal, right?

[MorleyDev]

Why do I get the feeling the 2024 USA Presdential Election is going to become "Basic Abortion rights vs No crimes for Holy Eternal Saintly Glorious Leader Trump"...

[pisskop]

If Biden doesnt run again the world will be a fun place...

[hector13]

We’ll see how the mid-terms go. If Trump’s Chosen Ones don’t perform well, there’s hope the Republicans finally wean themselves from his teat. Maybe then he creates his own party, and if that happens the extreme end of the GOP splits off so the conservatives are quite so bananas as they are now.

[StrawBarrel]

Some of the statues that Trump is accused of violating [...]

Spoiler: I knew he was 'handsy' but... (click to show/hide)

Those poor statues :-[

But yeah Peltola's victory is great news.

[Vector]

There's enough well-developed backlash against trans people at this point that I'm barring myself from reading news articles about us that weren't written by us. . . And recently I noticed a resurgence online of using "gay" as a catch-all synonym for "bad," which I literally hadn't seen in spaces I frequent since 2010.

I don't know why I'm announcing this in AmeriPol, but in many ways I feel I'm losing any right I had to exist in public. They've decided that we're all deluded and weak, and predators prepared to snatch good women and children. I hope I'm alive in three years.

[Lord Shonus]

I'm already seeing people say, "lol the folders are empty so he didn't take anything after all."

I'm sure every document had tracking information so the government knows precisely what's missing, and losing classified documents has to be at least as bad as taking them in the first place.  It is really frustrating to keep seeing people correctly say that anyone else would already be in prison, but Trump is going to keep dragging and delaying until something stupid happens and he gets off with a slap on the wrist.  Something like the 2024 election.

Actually, for that matter, I guess if he or another Republican won the 2024 election, they could pardon even that kind of crime.  It's all federal, right?

You only hear the loudest people, and the way the Internet amplifies things makes it seem like the loudest people are ubiquitous. More detailed study says that the attitude on the ground is *very* different and things are not nearly as bad as they look.

You only hear the loudest people, and the way the Internet amplifies things makes it seem like the loudest people are ubiquitous. More detailed study says that the attitude on the ground is *very* different and things are not nearly as bad as they look.

[Vector]

Thank you, Shonus. I really needed to hear that today ...

[nenjin]

Also, if you don't ever read anything about trans people except by trans people, then you're creating an echo chamber for yourself. Other perspectives, even ones we may not like, broaden our own perspectives and challenge our assumptions. (For example, that everyone except trans people hate trans people.) While information isolation is one way to protect your psyche, it's not without its own costs. The less you interact with the rest of the non-trans population, the more isolated you're going to feel.

I mean....how do you think the MAGA wonks got where they are? They only listened to the people saying stuff they already agreed with. If Trans folks say only trans folks can be trusted and everyone else is out to get you, that is not dissimilar from the same kind of fear mongering that has driven Conservative Republicans clinically insane.

[Vector]

At least right now, the broadened perspective I'm getting is consistently "you're dangerous" and "kill yourself." I don't mean to say that on a permanent basis I'm d - o - n - e, but I need to adjust my expectations for the new environment instead of constantly giving myself psychic damage.

Also because people are stressed I'm currently getting stomped on by cis women as an anti-feminist from whom they need to protect themselves, cis men as a deluded freak, trans men as an "incomplete" version of themselves, and trans women as a "gay woman" who makes them look bad. This is in my literal, physical present social environment. I know it's not ALL bad -- it isn't actually, literally, "everyone." But I want to spend the time that I have to myself for reading building myself up, not reading more "LGB drop the T" or "I'm a real trans, nonbinaries are fake" drivel that is making up 99% of present online comment sections.

[nenjin]

The fracturing of a nominally unified group is kind of a natural outflow of making smaller and smaller categories of identity. "You can't understand me because you're not a trans man." "You can't understand me because you're not a trans-woman." "You can't understand me because you're not a trans man of color." "You can't understand me because you're not a disabled trans woman."

As one trans person said "I don't need you to understand me, I just need you to accept me." I like that approach but it seems to be buried under each group jockeying for recognition and acknowledgement as particularly distinct.

Which, for myself for example who has been supportive of LGTBQ members of my family on both sides for the last 30 years, kind of makes me want to just back away slowly before I get identified as being somewhere I "don't belong." Between the outright hostility shown to people not part of the ingroup and not staying current with where the dynamics of each part of LGBTQ is at, it feels like a minefield. Like Shonus said, the conversation is hijacked by the loudest parts of the in-group.

[Frumple]

Eh, it's probably fine to hold off on non-trans written stuff on trans issues, especially for a while. It's not going to completely close you off to the out-group perspective, because trans folks write about that, too.

It's just going to let someone else do the initial interaction with the proverbial blender (more) parts of the non-trans demographics are becoming, so someone else can take the risk of finding out if the blender is on or not. When you're starting to get frazzled about checking that with your own damn fingers, it can be a blessing.

[Telgin]

You only hear the loudest people, and the way the Internet amplifies things makes it seem like the loudest people are ubiquitous. More detailed study says that the attitude on the ground is *very* different and things are not nearly as bad as they look.

You know, upon reflection this is probably true.  It's probably telling that the locals who think that Trump is all but the second coming of Jesus haven't mentioned a thing about this.  That implies that they must believe he really did do something wrong, because otherwise they'd be yelling about Deep States and Pelosi and Biden and The Squad and New World Orders and how they're all out to get Trump.  They did that with the two impeachments, anyway.

[Rolan7]

They might be busy on TikTok making threats, from actionable to "subtle"