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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #28650 on: March 01, 2019, 03:14:24 pm »

Beto's about to announce tbh. I wish he wouldn't and would just run for senate later.

Andrew Yang, though, who didn't make your list, should be an interesting candidate if he gets on the stage. He's running with an emphasis on UBI and UHC and plans to use them as major talking point if only to get them into the general conversation.

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« Reply #28651 on: March 01, 2019, 04:02:47 pm »

Beto's about to announce tbh. I wish he wouldn't and would just run for senate later.

Agreed. "Pretty far left for Texas" and "shill for oil companies" aren't the direction Democrats (or anyone) needs to go.

It's almost like the establishment democrats are scared of Bernie or something... /s

Probably, but what's that got to do with CNN?
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« Reply #28652 on: March 01, 2019, 04:16:36 pm »

Yeah, IF he gets in there, he is polling practically null right now. I've heard of him mentioned before and I know nothing about him. I suppose his last name might be an issue, but he's Taiwanese Chinese, not mainland Chinese.

Looking at his campaign page, he certainly has ideas about big issues. But he has stuff that candidates would either roll into a larger plan or things that wouldn't be a decider for 99% of people, like stuff about robocalling, zoning, making taxes fun (I went O.o at this. I get what he's trying to say about making it not a chore, but making revenue day a holiday with celebrations? I can't tell if he's being sarcastic or serious), an idea to burst the rural/urban divide and the bubbles (I don't think the idea he's proposing is logistically workable, but could serve to start a conversation on it). Surprisingly (considering his background), he doesn't have anything about China, though knowing his background, it wouldn't be hard to guess. The only foriegn policy stuff in there is one entry in the policy page. Though I guess technically two since he has one entry about modernizing military funding and refocusing.

The main problem is that he's starting off as an utter blank slate, he is unknown outside of whatever circles he is in. As outsider as Trump was, he still had name recognition as a foundation.

Beto's about to announce tbh. I wish he wouldn't and would just run for senate later.

Agreed. "Pretty far left for Texas" and "shill for oil companies" aren't the direction Democrats (or anyone) needs to go.

Haven't heard anything about him being shill for oil companies. Also, I've read ancedotes that Republican operatives said that if he had done his campaign better or differently, he very well could have won that seat.
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« Reply #28653 on: March 01, 2019, 04:31:33 pm »

I just get the foreboding feeling from Biden like I do from hurricanes when I'm sitting at the edge of a probability cone. There's tremendous power there, and I'm just hoping it decides not to come here. But if it does there's not much we can do except ride it out and hope for the best.

Not entirely sure what you mean, like he'd be a strong contender? Right now, the polling mostly indicates name recognition, not neccesarily support. IMO he's a bit too gaffe prone in that it would be harder to just go 'Oh, it's just Uncle Biden being silly again.'. Then again, it's mild compared to Trump.

I have a feeling he'd clean out the primary field pretty easily, on name recognition alone. And then from there it'd be anybody's guess how the general election turns out.

I think "name recognition" is going to be horribly underrated going into this. Seems like outside of the small groups who keep up with politics, nobody knows anything about these people. I feel like going into the primary nobody's going to know anything about them still. If he runs, it's basically going to be Biden's to lose by saying something stupid or having something from his past dug up. Both very reasonable possibilities.

A disturbing number of voters though go to the polls and mark down the name that sounds the most familiar. That's it. That's their entire decision process. That's why campaign signs work at all.

Then again maybe I'm just hating people a little much right now and see nothing but the worst in the country and thus reducing them all down to a bunch of dumb sheep who make only the most minimal sensory connections of matching one picture with another when they vote. That's possible too.

In any case, Hurricane Biden is on the horizon. Personally I'm hoping for a fish storm and he'll go away with little more than some splashing. We'll see.
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« Reply #28654 on: March 02, 2019, 03:54:27 am »

I'd say most people who vote actually take it very seriously*. However, name recognition definitely helps as it gives people a sense of familiarity with the candidate, which helps to build trust and gives you some idea of what they stand for. If you have two similar candidates, you'll vote for the one you know.

*this does not mean they don't suffer cognitive biases or that they will do much research on individual candidates. Also note that elections are often close, so if 10% of the population vote mostly on name recognition that could easily sway an election despite there only being a minority who do that.
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« Reply #28655 on: March 02, 2019, 05:46:50 am »

I feel the democrat fields a very pirate name sounding set of candidate names this year. Can we hope for a debate on Talk Like a Pirate Day?
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« Reply #28656 on: March 02, 2019, 02:20:22 pm »

<- Actually pretty far left for Texas, out here in "socialism is a step towards the future, rather than a goal in itself" land, which is not unusual in Dallas.

Someone should Warren Beto that he would be better of Biden his time before he runs his Gabbard too much and starts feeling a little Bernie if you Klobuchar what I'm Buttigieg-ing here?

Also: Boot-Edge-Edge apparently.
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« Reply #28657 on: March 02, 2019, 02:56:50 pm »

It’s more Buddha judge, at least according to an interview I heard him give a few weeks back.
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« Reply #28658 on: March 03, 2019, 05:24:57 pm »

I hope Klobuchar wins, it's about time Minnesota extended its rightful dominion over the rest of the US. And we've not forgotten 1984, time to right the wrongs.

1984?
Pretty sure it's a reference to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election.

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« Reply #28659 on: March 03, 2019, 06:31:04 pm »

See, I was looking at clips from the cpac circle jerk of dumbshits and people keep focusing on hamberder removal or chicken-fer-notgays and I'm still sitting here stunned that someone like Scott Walker could deliver such a hilarious joke as "when you take the baby home and kill it, that's called murder" and receive applause instead of hysterical laughter: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1101115494587867136

Cause, I mean... there's no way he's just now finding out tossing babies in a woodchipper is murder, right?

Can someone check on his kids for us?
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« Reply #28660 on: March 03, 2019, 07:24:24 pm »

With Senator Paul Rand voicing his opposition to the National Emergency, it seems there are now enough votes for the anti-National Emergency resolution to pass in the Senate.

President Trump has already stated his intention to veto this resolution, which would mark his first veto in office. Congress would then need a 2/3rds majority to override the veto, in both chambers, which is unlikely to happen.
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« Reply #28661 on: March 03, 2019, 07:50:28 pm »

Certainly looks likely.

With all the hyperventilating and misinterpreting over the Green New Deal, IMO, I don't think they are slippery sloping themselves enough or whipping themselves into a frenzy enough over precedence, what if a Democrat decides to sieze all guns! COMMENCE HYPERVENTILATING! heh.
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« Reply #28662 on: March 03, 2019, 09:39:35 pm »

Bear in mind Scott Walker thought he could call himself the education governor ‘cause he added $600m+ to education in his final budget before he was ousted in the recent election.

Maybe he was hoping folk would forget he made record cuts to state funding for K-12 education in his first budget upwards of $1b, and also took away collective bargaining rights for educators.
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« Reply #28663 on: March 04, 2019, 08:32:22 am »

See, I was looking at clips from the cpac circle jerk of dumbshits and people keep focusing on hamberder removal or chicken-fer-notgays and I'm still sitting here stunned that someone like Scott Walker could deliver such a hilarious joke as "when you take the baby home and kill it, that's called murder" and receive applause instead of hysterical laughter: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1101115494587867136

Cause, I mean... there's no way he's just now finding out tossing babies in a woodchipper is murder, right?

Can someone check on his kids for us?
How do you feed your woodchipper?

I use goblins.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #28664 on: March 04, 2019, 05:57:52 pm »

who would ya'll vote for in 2020 out of the current pool of candidates? gotta be honest if my choice is between romney and cruz i'll just vote independent for the gop primary and vote democrat or third party depending on who wins the dem primary.
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