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[SalmonGod]

Inb4 someone claims this is the left's fault for initiating the mob violence trend, because white nationalists would have remained peaceful if they didn't feel the need to avenge bike lock and Spencer punch.

[smjjames]

Has the driver been arrested? Do we know that it was intentional? Playing devil's advocate here, but it doesn't pay to jump to conclusion.

It definetly LOOKS intentional, from the way it happened, but theres no 100% conclusion yet. I haven't heard anything about the driver being found yet.

Inb4 someone claims this is the left's fault for initiating the mob violence trend, because white nationalists would have remained peaceful if they didn't feel the need to avenge bike lock and Spencer punch.

Fingers are going to be pointed regardless.

[Frumple]

Yeah, there's video. If it's not intentional, it was god's own hand making it look like it was.

[hector13]

So... was the car rammed into the pro-statue/white nationalist protesters or the counter-protesters?

I second the call for caution. While the protesters are reported to have been wearing armour and wielding shields, suggesting they were ready for a fight, it does take a special kind of bastard to ram a car into a crowd of people purely because they disagree with you.

[Frumple]

... they broke through a line of cars to ram into a group of counter protesters, yes. Frankly caution can fuck right off at the moment.

[smjjames]

... they broke through a line of cars to ram into a group of counter protesters, yes. Frankly caution can fuck right off at the moment.

And then drove right off away from there. If that doesn't heavily indicate intent, then I don't know what does.

So... was the car rammed into the pro-statue/white nationalist protesters or the counter-protesters?

I second the call for caution. While the protesters are reported to have been wearing armour and wielding shields, suggesting they were ready for a fight, it does take a special kind of bastard to ram a car into a crowd of people purely because they disagree with you.

Not sure about armor, but I've definetly seen shields in footage.

[Baffler]

A good deal of blame, from what I understand, can be placed on the city officials. The protesters were at first officially denied a permit to march at the park and were sent to a different, larger one nearby instead, but the organizers threatened to sue over it and the judge, knowing full well they'd probably win, rescinded the order. The city police however still tried to use force to move the marchers to the other larger park, and in doing so sent them directly through the counter-protest's picket.

[Frumple]

Huh. Well, at least one GOP critter looks to have had the balls to at least say it straight on twitter, gods know if they'll go further than that. Can't really recall how surprising it is to be coming from rubio, though.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Speaking of Spencer, allegedly he was there and got arrested?

[EnigmaticHat]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/12/542982015/home-to-university-of-virginia-prepares-for-violence-at-white-nationalist-rally

It was inevitable.

Its funny, every time I see someone in this thread talking about how antifa is killing people with leftist violence, I ask them to produce a legit news article about someone murdered by antifa.  And they never give me even one.

Now we finally have a clash between alt-right and counterprotestors, in which someone is killed.  And its a peaceful counterprotestor getting hit by a car :/

[Frumple]

Speaking of Spencer, allegedly he was there and got arrested?

There appears to be pictures, at the absolute least.

[SalmonGod]

Video just came up on my Facebook of people getting beaten with lit torches lastnight, too.

[smjjames]

Video just came up on my Facebook of people getting beaten with lit torches lastnight, too.

All that's missing are the pitchforks aren't we /s

Meanwhile, Trump is doing a vagueish condemnation of the whole thing, though it sounds like he's blaming violence on both sides rather than just the white supremacists/nationalists.

[Frumple]

Yeah. Iirc there were cops nearby just kinda' watching, at some point or another. Dunno if it was in the vid or not.

And yeah, that was what the craven piece of shit bit was about.

[smjjames]

Also, in a bit of irony, those were tiki/hawaiian/polynesian torches used, not white-people-made torches.