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[misko27]

In the New Yorker interview, Mooch specifically accused Reince Priebus of being the leaker (although it apparently took him a while to get there), so there's already precedent for him to just go "Bannon is leaking to the press" in some future rant to another confused journalist. Whether that will have as much effect on Bannon that it did on Priebus is uncertain, but it seems unlikely.

[RedKing]

Right. Now that Priebus is out, when the leaks don't stop (and they won't, because every member of this administration is self-serving enough to dish out the dirt when it suits them, in an attempt to better their own position) then he'll have to name *another* leaker. This has the potential to turn into some Reign of Terror shit, with former allies denouncing each other and throwing one another to the figurative guillotine. Wouldn't be surprised if Scaradouche has own head on the chopping block by the end of the year.

Not to mention, Trump himself is a pretty damn good source of leaks.


Meanwhile: North Korea has decided that now is a good time to poke the bear.

[Egan_BW]

Who pokes the frikkin bear that's vividly hallucinating pink elephant demons and swiping its claws around blindly, tearing apart the surrounding foliage.

[smjjames]

Right. Now that Priebus is out, when the leaks don't stop (and they won't, because every member of this administration is self-serving enough to dish out the dirt when it suits them, in an attempt to better their own position) then he'll have to name *another* leaker. This has the potential to turn into some Reign of Terror shit, with former allies denouncing each other and throwing one another to the figurative guillotine. Wouldn't be surprised if Scaradouche has own head on the chopping block by the end of the year.

Not to mention, Trump himself is a pretty damn good source of leaks.


Meanwhile: North Korea has decided that now is a good time to poke the bear.

Who pokes the frikkin bear that's vividly hallucinating pink elephant demons and swiping its claws around blindly, tearing apart the surrounding foliage.

Bear would be Russia, should be Eagle.

And yes, I know the normal metaphor is 'poke the bear/other dangerous carnivore'. Though a vividly hallucinating and chaotically lashing out bear would be even more dangerous.

Anyways, uhoh, the NK situation is now definetly going to escalate. Doesn't help that the WH is distracted by everything and the state department is pretty much gutted.

[Sheb]

And yes, I know the normal metaphor is 'poke the bear/other dangerous carnivore'. Though a vividly hallucinating and chaotically lashing out bear would be even more dangerous.

Anyways, uhoh, the NK situation is now definetly going to escalate. Doesn't help that the WH is distracted by everything and the state department is pretty much gutted.

Why should it escalate now specifically? NK has been testing missiles every other week since the beginning of the year.

[smjjames]

And yes, I know the normal metaphor is 'poke the bear/other dangerous carnivore'. Though a vividly hallucinating and chaotically lashing out bear would be even more dangerous.

Anyways, uhoh, the NK situation is now definetly going to escalate. Doesn't help that the WH is distracted by everything and the state department is pretty much gutted.

Why should it escalate now specifically? NK has been testing missiles every other week since the beginning of the year.

Because Trump? *shrug*

[RedKing]

And yes, I know the normal metaphor is 'poke the bear/other dangerous carnivore'. Though a vividly hallucinating and chaotically lashing out bear would be even more dangerous.

Anyways, uhoh, the NK situation is now definetly going to escalate. Doesn't help that the WH is distracted by everything and the state department is pretty much gutted.

Why should it escalate now specifically? NK has been testing missiles every other week since the beginning of the year.

Because Trump? *shrug*

^^^^^^

Trump doesn't grok "incremental response". I could very well see him ordering a nuclear strike on Pyongyang. I could also very well see the military chain of command refusing that order, absent an imminent attack from NK.

[ChairmanPoo]

Why should it escalate now specifically? NK has been testing missiles [and nukes] every other week since the beginning of the year. century

I tend to agree

[Sheb]

Why should it escalate now specifically? NK has been testing missiles [and nukes] every other week since the beginning of the year. century

I tend to agree

You're exagerating, there is a clear increase in the pace of tests over the last two years. One each in 2014 and 2015, 5 in 2016 and 12 so far this year. But this also mean that one extra test doesn't change much.

At this point, the one thing that could cause someone to overreact is NK displaying a capacity to send a nuke via ICBM.

[hector13]

Well, if things get bad enough (worse than this?) perhaps Trump'll start a war to try to make things better for himself/distract everyone from whateverthefuck is happening in the WH.

[Harry Baldman]

At this point, the one thing that could cause someone to overreact is NK displaying a capacity to send a nuke via ICBM.

If the response was appropriate or in line with what you could reasonably expect from an informed decision, it wouldn't be called "overreacting".

[Frumple]

You're exagerating, there is a clear increase in the pace of tests over the last two years. One each in 2014 and 2015, 5 in 2016 and 12 so far this year. But this also mean that one extra test doesn't change much.

At this point, the one thing that could cause someone to overreact is NK displaying a capacity to send a nuke via ICBM.

... isn't the whole reason people have been getting increasingly tetchy about the last couple (including the latest) specifically because they've been displaying greater apparent launch capability, relative to earlier tests? Iirc (I just woke up, mind, so I'm pretty definitely forgetting details, here) either this latest one or the one before displayed capability fairly conclusively indicative of being able to hit LA for the first time, or somethin' along those lines.

One extra test can change quite a lot if that one extra test is different from the ones before, heh. There's also, as y'note, the increase in frequency. Which I can kinda' understand, either 'cause they're getting close or 'cause one of their primary antagonistic entities (the US) ended up electing someone persistently inconclusive about how willing to nuke someone they are. Hand in hand with the political party that's been willing to include glassing other countries in their rhetoric without much or any censure gaining enough institutional control to conceptually make an offensive strike possible.

Add on that one of the major nuclear powers (russia) also violated a non-proliferation treaty (ukraine's you-no-invade-we-no-build-nuke thing) in the last few years, and you got some pretty fresh incentives to get stuff able to get in the air.

One of those cases where as sketchy as all hell as I am about NK being a nuclear power, at the same time I have trouble blaming pretty much fucking anyone for wanting the capability and the potential deterrence it brings to the table, right now.

[Sheb]

Well, it was more an answer to smjjames going "Well, NOW it's going to escalate for sure".

[Frumple]

Ah, fair enough. Probably not that far, if still fairly fair to think it might be more likely than earlier. Kinda' hard to say where the lines are with the actors involved without bombs actually flying, unfortunately

[Strife26]

We've been kicking the explosive can of finishing the Korean War down the road for decades. We can keep kicking and hope for the best, or deal with the disposing of the can now. Neither is especially pleasant.