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[wierd]

No matter which side loses, we win.  Yes.

The House of Mouse has been needing to get condemned for a very very long time.  Maybe we will stop getting "mickey mouse protection act" reruns, and sensible copyrights might start to come back into vogue.

(I can dream, right? I'd settle for mickey just ending up in public domain like he SHOULD have over 20 years ago. A lasting row between Disney and the GOP, could just be the souring event needed to have the legislature just decide "no, not giving it to you this time".)

[LordBaal]

Florida Mice.

[martinuzz]

Miami Mice?

[Rolan7]

Last week my liberal mom shared Disney's strongly worded press release.  She considered it, uh, really good news that would make me happy.  I felt the need to acknowledge their "soft power" or whatever, while also communicating that I wasn't too excited about empty statements of support (though they technically have a positive normalization effect, in other words:  It's better than nothing I guess).

Shitposting the government is *my* job, Disney, and it ain't praxis.

So I'm glad to hear they took actual action as well, even if it's belatedly reducing harm.  It's Disney, I don't expect anything more than token support.

Which makes it all the more hilarious (if tragic) that Florida reacted in this way.  Absolutely bonkers.  Don't these goons know that you're supposed to exchange empty rhetoric while maintaining the status quo?  Why would they sabotage the local economy over such a token bit of rainbow capitalism?  Literal death-cult behavior, yet again, and naturally it's the people who are going to suffer for their representatives' petty crusade.

[Frumple]

Does anyone have a simple summary of what the actual consequences are for Disney and Florida as a whole if this goes through?  I read that there are existing laws that may make it easy for Disney to fight this, and saw something about Florida tax payers being on the hook for $1 billion as a result, but I'm not really sure I follow how or why.

The $1 billion dollar thing specifically is the tax district in question's bonds, from what I understand. If the district dissolves, those get passed on to the state, so... florida taxpayers ultimately end up with the bill. Dissolving the district like a dumbshite instead of rearranging things more gracefully also means the 100 million-ish annual tax revenue it's currently generating on top of its other tax obligations just goes poof, with whatever it was paying for getting dumped on some part of the state gov't, most likely the (heavily democratic) local districts.

For all disney's kind of an asshole overall, make no mistake, this is pretty certain to end up shitting on a lot of people that's not them (and especially not their decision makers)... which, y'know, GOP being GOP is probably part of the point, the hateful shitsacks.

[scriver]

Well, shit

[Lord Shonus]

Disney's special district is required to have higher standards than state minimum (similar situation to Cal-OSHA), and saves the taxpayers of those twomFlorida counties billions every year. Besides major issues like some buikdings in the park being *on the county line* and thus a major headache if the district is dissolved, they've used the district to almost completely offset the park's environmental impact.

No matter what you think of Disney the corporation, this "fuck Disney" law is very bad for everybody, and benefits nobody.

Disney has two very solid avenues to get rid of the problem. Most easily, state law prohibits dissolution of a district without majority vote of the taxpayers in the relevant counties, which DeSantis does jot and will not have.

Alternatively, "we're passing a law to explicitly fuck you over for political speech we don't like" is a pretty blatant 1A violation, so Disney's got a really solid case in Federal court.

Which is likely to be DeSantis's real motivation - give him a court defeat that he can point to and rant about "activist courts)

[nenjin]

He's gonna have a lot to rant about.

First the Don't Say Gay Bill.

Then trying to vanish Disney.

And now for your political consumption.....the WOKE Act.

https://time.com/6168753/florida-stop-woke-law/

He's gonna be in Federal Court until he dies of old age.

[McTraveller]

Yeah the stuff from Florida is excruciatingly petty.  There is a way you can have a reasoned dialog about things like CRT, such as acknowledging the existence of systemic issues but questioning the idea of blaming current generations for past generations' behaviors.  That is, at what point does the systemic issue become "the responsibility" of the current generation?

It's also symptomatic of the way people increasingly respond to political issues emotionally instead of rationally.

But no, instead of a reasoned dialog we get "well we're in power because of the way our elections work with small majorities and because we get a huge emotional response and dopamine hit from that response, we'll just take the extreme stance and say 'we don't like being accused of stuff, so we'll try to limit any discussions of accusations at all!' ".

[anewaname]

It should be interesting to see if the Florida far-right militia groups start taking extra money for "extra jobs".

[Vector]

Paper published in 1998: Just What is Critical Race Theory and What's it Doing in a Nice Field Like Education?

[nenjin]

Two can play at this fucking game Florida:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/04/complaint-filed-florida-ban-bible-woke/

It literally meets all their stupid definitions of bannable materials.

[Telgin]

That's pretty hilarious, but I have my doubts it'll result in the Bible being banned or any laws being changed.

[dragdeler]

I don't find that funny at all. The fact that they won't apply these standards to the bible objectively requires ruptured throaths from all the bibles that were tried to be stuffed in there.

[Rolan7]

It certainly won't result in banning the Bible, but it's still useful (theoretically).  It's the same idea as the infamous Baphomet statue that was submitted to that courthouse which insisted on displaying the Ten Commandments:  It shows how absurd a law (or in this case, a legislative body) is in practice.

I guess you're right that little will come of it, though.  This isn't about a silly law having absurd consequences, it's literally just Christian Nationalism taken to its logical and inevitable next step.  They know what they're doing is hateful (AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL), but it's okay because they think (erroneously) that their hate is Biblically justified.

They're also astoundingly un-American-Dream, almost like they only ever wielded a fake version of America to serve their bigoted purposes...  I hate being so cynical, but it's hard to imagine that these "American" ideals were ever real.  I shudder to think about what their faith, their meditations with God, must be like.

Whenever I talked about organized Christianity terrifying me, this is literally what I was afraid of.  I was right.  All good Christians need to be loudly fighting against this sort of thing or, I'm sorry, be associated with it.  (This is true of any group or movement - I'm certainly aware of toxic/hateful leftists and atheists, and I spend a lot of my effort going after *them* instead of fascists and religious people.  But we don't have rogue US states setting up guillotines or banning the very mention of religion).