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[Frumple]

... if it comes up, sure. Just... remind me. Even odds I'll forget before I notice clown news/honkening incidences again. Definitely promise to fix via edit if that happens, though.

[Rolepgeek]

Onomatopoeia?

[Criptfeind]

Frumple is just a one man transcribed accent machine. As in he's the one man with that particular transcribed accent. Don't think about it too hard.

[smjjames]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

[Frumple]

I'm just trying to figure out why you occasionally use "ferex" in your posts. I have no idea where it originated from, and dictionaries offer up nothing.

fer example

For example with a southern accent, shortened to fewer letters.

[TheBiggerFish]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

Please let that actually happen...Please let that actually happen...

[Neonivek]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

Please let that actually happen...Please let that actually happen...

I was about to say something along the lines of that being a butchering of democracy...

But... Then again the best thing about this is it might actually give Clinton the untold power to actually get rid of the Electoral College.

[hector13]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

Please let that actually happen...Please let that actually happen...

Despite my reservations regarding Trump, it's a big fucking step to say "see that election we had a few days ago? Yeah that doesn't count because we don't like the result."

Big precedent. Almost big league, you could say.

[TheBiggerFish]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

Please let that actually happen...Please let that actually happen...

I was about to say something along the lines of that being a butchering of democracy...

But... Then again the best thing about this is it might actually give Clinton the untold power to actually get rid of the Electoral College.

And I'm p sure she won the popular vote?

[hector13]

That's not - for some bizarre reason - the vote that matters. In an essentially two-party race.

Why is that, again?

[smjjames]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

Please let that actually happen...Please let that actually happen...

I was about to say something along the lines of that being a butchering of democracy...

But... Then again the best thing about this is it might actually give Clinton the untold power to actually get rid of the Electoral College.

Given how 'Republicans fall in line', I really doubt it, and the nevertrump movement basically fizzled. But yeah, who knows.

Still, doing that would be an excersize in uselessness because throwing it to the House would just still result in Trump-Pence.

[TheBiggerFish]

Okay, so, anyone think there's going to be sustained campaigning at the electors?

At 290 ECV (Michigan technically hasn't been called yet, but it won't affect the results), you'd have to see more than 20 (36 if Michigan goes to Trump) electors revolt to change anything. The three that have already said they'd be faithless won't affect things and could still go ahead anyway as a protest. There would have to be a large number of nevertrump electors (whether coordinated or not) turning into faithless electors in order to affect things, and given the halfhearted protests in the Republican Convention, I doubt it.

Please let that actually happen...Please let that actually happen...

I was about to say something along the lines of that being a butchering of democracy...

But... Then again the best thing about this is it might actually give Clinton the untold power to actually get rid of the Electoral College.

Given how 'Republicans fall in line', I really doubt it, and the nevertrump movement basically fizzled. But yeah, who knows.

Still, doing that would be an excersize in uselessness because throwing it to the House would just still result in Trump-Pence.

Eh?
How do you figure it'd go to the house?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That's not - for some bizarre reason - the vote that matters. In an essentially two-party race.

Why is that, again?

No, that's such a widespread misunderstanding that it might as well be a conspiracy theory. Faithless electors are not and have never been the intention of the EC, they're just an unfortunate consequence of it (which is why it's illegal in so many places, and would be illegal in all of them if anything had ever been decided by a faithless elector as opposed to the protest votes they really are).

The electoral college exists as a relic of the US beta testing democracy and a Presidential system between an association of 13 different states all with very divided opinions on what that all should look like. To give you the short form, slaveholding states supported having Congress elect the President because their slave populations were counted under the 3/5ths Compromise for the number of representatives they would have, while free states supported having a direct popular vote because the lack or relative rarity of slaves meant they would have more influence electing the President.

The electoral college was the most easily agreed upon system to prevent everybody from killing each other or smothering the union in its cradle and becoming vulnerable to the European powers/Canada/each other.

We've been trying to get rid of it ever since. You might think of it as a generational curse, almost.

Totally called it on the generational curse thing, by the way.

[Neonivek]

I think the Nevertrump movement was a good move all things considered (outside the... riots)

People NEEDED to get this out of their system AND frankly people being too civil is also a problem.

[Frumple]

That's not - for some bizarre reason - the vote that matters. In an essentially two-party race.

Why is that, again?

somethingsomething... connecticut? Compromise? Something that sounds like that, anyway. I think. Don't ask me for details, I don't remember them and don't feel like looking them up right now. There was some kind of reason for that when it was first implemented, and I'm pretty sure there's some good arguments out there for why it was a relatively good idea then and now, but... yeah.

And yeah, clinton's been maintaining a 2-300k popular vote lead for most of today, near as I've noticed. Vaguely remember hearing it may widen notably before it's all counted, for what it matters. It's not exactly a large amount (<1% of the population), but it is what it is.