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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1414113 times)

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« Reply #2145 on: August 03, 2016, 11:36:46 pm »

Truly?  I think a deadlock actually requires fewer assumptions than a Johnson presidency because of the following: for it to hold, you need the same conditions as yours to force a House vote (Neither Clinton nor Trump receive an absolute majority of electoral votes; Johnson receives at least one electoral vote), but you do not actually need the House Republicans to go en masse to Johnson, and a Democrat wave is the one thing that would make both of these absolutely impossible (because, as you say, Hillary wins).  You only need enough Republicans to break ranks to deny Trump an absolute majority; if no one receives those 26 votes from the state delegations, the House decision cannot be made, and the balloting continues until someone does.  It's already tremendously unlikely, but I think the notion that the House Republicans will maintain party unity internally while simultaneously breaking with the Republican Presidential candidate is actually less likely than the notion that some House Republicans will back Trump while some will back Johnson in an acrimonious three-way break.  So, in other words, with the caveat that we're both discussing very unlikely events, what you argue that it is more probable that at least 26 of those 32 states will break ranks.  What I argue is that it's more likely that 7 might break ranks than 26. 
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Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« Reply #2146 on: August 04, 2016, 12:13:02 am »

It isn't *that* crazy and outlandish.

If Clinton crumbles in debates and looks like a complete crook while Trump keeps saying stupid nonsense, it could be that Trump wins Pennsylvania and Ohio but loses Utah (and maybe some other states like Idaho or Montana in an extreme case) to Johnson. That map wouldn't be particularly strange looking.

Still really unlikely though.
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Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« Reply #2147 on: August 04, 2016, 12:48:16 am »

I am looking forward to the debates, I have every confidence that Hillary is going to crush trump like an overripe orange, complete with wispy mold.
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« Reply #2148 on: August 04, 2016, 12:50:55 am »

No, no, Clinton won't crush Trump.

Trump will crush Trump by saying something incredibly dumb before that could happen.

He has already demonstrated an incredibly high level of proficiency at shooting himself in the foot every time he speaks, let's not underestimate him.
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« Reply #2149 on: August 04, 2016, 12:57:29 am »

Soooo Clinton just gets to watch Trump implode?
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Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« Reply #2150 on: August 04, 2016, 01:02:49 am »

Soooo Clinton just gets to watch Trump implode?
THe problem is that the singularity could take her with him

I hope her podium is securely fastened.
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Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« Reply #2151 on: August 04, 2016, 01:16:50 am »

I always found it weird that you guys need to organise debates for your politicians. Shouldn't they be debating anyway?
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« Reply #2152 on: August 04, 2016, 01:25:35 am »

I always found it weird that you guys need to organise debates for your politicians. Shouldn't they be debating anyway?

No, see, we don't have very good turnout rate, so the best way to win is to increase turnout for your voters. The best way to do that is to vilify your opponents and hype up your side, rather than any actual meaningful debate or exploration of issues in a debate. That could reveal whether a position is supported by anything whatsoever, after all!
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« Reply #2153 on: August 04, 2016, 03:25:34 am »

Trump: ‘I don’t know why we’re not leading by a lot’

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“I hear we’re leading Florida by a bit,” he said. “I don’t know why we’re not leading by a lot. Maybe crowds don’t make the difference.”

A Fox News national poll published Tuesday showed Trump trailing Clinton by 10 percentage points, 49 percent to 39 percent -- though he fares somewhat better in state polls.
1) No shit, Trump.
2) 10 percentage point Democrat lead? In a Fox News poll? What is this I don't even
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Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« Reply #2154 on: August 04, 2016, 03:45:48 am »

Trump is like the logic antiparticle
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« Reply #2155 on: August 04, 2016, 03:58:11 am »

Trump is like the logic antiparticle
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« Reply #2156 on: August 04, 2016, 04:25:06 am »

The Republican Party has an emergency plan on how to deal with Trump suddenly quitting the race for president.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senior-gop-officials-exploring-options-trump-drops/story?id=41089609

It's all according to plan. Trump will drop out of the elections one week before election day. Republicans will immediatly elect a new candidate, who will enter the presidential race without the opponents having any time left to throw mud or dig up closet skeletons. Republican candidate will be elected president with slogan "I'm not Trump and I'm not Hillary".
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Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« Reply #2157 on: August 04, 2016, 04:47:16 am »

"One week before election day" is too late, there's a hard cut-off about two-three weeks before the election because USA government has to send ballots to overseas territories by that time.
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« Reply #2158 on: August 04, 2016, 05:00:41 am »

That takes three weeks? Goddamn snail mail.
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« Reply #2159 on: August 04, 2016, 05:20:12 am »

You guys have that "write your own name on the ballot" thing, or something, right?  Whether or not Trump bows out in time, GOP leadership just has to say "we'd like you to write <Cruz/Jeb/whoever> on your ballots, please, to save the Republican Party" and push the problem onto the ballot-counters who have to try to decypher hundreds of different scrawled spellings of "Jeb" or thousands of "Cruz"s...

/sitting on the sideline, showing his own ignorance, and what happens with chads or touchscreen voting machines?
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