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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Arms Race Hub Thread
International (Turn) Thread

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From: Desk of Prime Minister Paias Abal
To: The Board of Weapons Design

Attached are all details of the weapons we have and their distribution amongst our military
forces.  As can be seen, we have limited variety for deployment, and many vastly outstrip
our current ability of production.  The Republic trusts that you will be able to solve these
issues rapidly.  If you do not, then there will be consequences.
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Spoiler: Republic of New Guinea Weapons Design Technology (click to show/hide)

Personal Equipment
AS-AR34: (2 Ore)(Personal, Medium, General) The AR34 is an assault rifle chambered for 7.62L ammunition, an intermediate powered cartridge. It is fed at the bottom from a wide 24-round magazine, or a 40-round drum, and ejects cartridges to the right side. It has a tactical rail an adjustable iron sights on top. It is select-fire, having a knob on the side which the user slides forward and back to set the gun either to be single-shot or automatic. The knob is very stiff and requires soldiers to take their left hand off the weapon and force it. Most of its furniture is made from aluminum, and it has a vertical pistol grip and foregrip. It weighs under 6kg. It has good stopping power and accuracy out to medium range, and is relatively easy for users to control even on automatic fire (which is still far less accurate than shooting singly). It's about as long as the AS-F14, which means it is usable in close quarters but not perfect.
AS-1924: (3 Ore)(Personal, Large, Officer) A light machine gun using 7.62mm rifle rounds. It is gas-operated, with a box magazine, a bottom-fed 25 round rectangular mag or 60 round drum. It includes an aluminium stock, magazines and fixtures, which are lighter than wood fixtures used on previous guns, though the barrel, action etc are steel. It is easily man portable at 8 kilos, allowing one man to carry the gun and a decent amount of ammo, though AS-1924 gunners are still often accompanied by a man to spot and carry additional ammo. It can be fired while standing or kneeling, with its pistol grip and overhead foregrip, but is most accurate when used with a bipod. Sustained fire (through multiple magazines) can cause overheating. Shoots around 500 rounds a minute. Costs 3 ore.
UF-P33: ((Personal, Large, General) A parachute based upon the Arstotzkan AS-P32 design.  It is large and round, and has various straps, clips and buckles to allow a soldier to carry a light primary weapon, ammunition, and a grenade, or a large weapon with limited ammo.
UF-M4 Radio: (1 Ore)(Personal, Large, Officer) A 30 pound vacuum tube radio that improves over the Model 3 from not needing to be assembled before use and having an internalized battery. It is both man-portable and can fit into most vehicles without affecting performance.  Range had to be sacrificed to keep the weight low and the battery fairly often runs down on long offenses.
UF-M35 Cobra: (1 Ore, 1 Oil)(Personal, Medium, General) A disc shaped landmine based upon the M34 Viper Landmine.  This design has a greater amount of explosives within the mine, but is also smaller.  The end result is that the mine has the same explosive power at a smaller size and lower cost.
AS-SP30: (1 Ore)(Personal, Small, General/Officer) An old Arstotzka-made 9mm semi-automatic pistol. It has a 10-round magazine and can fire quickly with moderate accuracy, at short range. Moderate stopping power. It is pretty reliable. It has a threaded barrel and can be fitted with a suppressor.

Vehicles
AS-T25: (5 Ore, 2 Oil)(Vehicle, Medium, Specialized) A medium tank, built to fit under medium thickness RHA. The armor is sloped shallow in the front, and this slope goes about halfway down the tank's length. The turret and crew hatch are on the flat part of the top of the tank, in the back, leading to a design that looks like a bit of a wedge. It is powered by a 12 cylinder, fuel injected diesel motor. The original turbo injection has been removed to save on fuel. It can get up to 40 kph. The gun, a AS-DT25, fires 50mm rounds, and has a screw breech. The original turret has been modified with an electric motor. It can fire about 20 times a minute and includes AP rounds. The treads are on hydropneumatic suspension, which improves accuracy while the tank is moving. Includes a coaxial AS-1924 and one on the exit hatch with a pintle mount.
UF-L2 Bengal: (3 Ore, 2 Oil) (Vehicle, Medium, General) A truck based upon the L-1 Tiger. The primary difference is within the base of the truck being reinforced and its rear wheels being doubled up.  This costs it speed, but renders it more resistant to sabotage.

Artillery/Anti-Air
Bumblebee AT/AA: (Costs 2 ore)(Vehicle, Medium, Specialized) A 3.6 inch gun. It can be aimed down close to the ground, or up the sky, and most of the new technology it includes is for this second purpose. It is aimed by a gunner who sits in a seat which inclines and declines with the gun itself, and has an iron sight which consists of two rings, the front of which has a "spiderweb" design. The gun is aimed with two traversal wheels. The gun is designed to fire new fuzed flak rounds, which have an adjustable timer set by a dial on the gun itself. There is also a mechanical targeting calculator, which is a box around the size of the Model 3 Radio that has a dial for target range, and rate of change of range, which can set the fuze time for shells accurately as the target moves. Additionally given an altitude and angle, the sight will automatically offset so that the gunner need merely keep the crosshair over the target. It is pretty effective, and also cheap and reliable. However, adjusting targeting calculator takes too long to aim at dive bombers and close, low-altitude planes. Fires about 15 times a minute.

Aircraft
AS-HF-32: (3 ore, 3 oil)(Vehicle, Medium, Specialized) An aluminum built fighter with a mid wing. It has a long narrow fuselage with a water cooled, turbo charged and fuel injected V10 motor. It has a square-ish closed canopy and fixed landing gear. It is armed with 2 AS-1924s in the wings and 2 AS-1924s in the nose, on an interrupter gear. It is faster and can climb higher than the AS-DB or AS-1931 by a good margin, and despite some turbulence from the landing gear it has better maneuverability at high speeds. Not often, but sometimes, the landing gear breaks off in an extreme maneuver, forcing pilots to land the craft on its belly. The bomb mounts and portions of the required reinforcing were removed to save on resources.
UF-1939 (5 Ore, 5 Oil)(Vehicle, Large, Specialized) A six-engine aircraft based upon the AS-1931-HAFB to transport the initial assault force to take a major port upon the island to allow UF-CV39s to have a place to land.  Much of its armaments had to be sadly removed in this revision in order to hold more soldiers.

Navy
UF-CV35: (6 Ore, 3 Oil) (Ship, Medium) A diesel-powered troop transport designed to carry further units onto an island for an invasion.  It mounts an Bumblebee AT/AA on the bow for air defense.

Spoiler: Deployment (click to show/hide)

Infantry
9 (Units)
  l- General - AS-AR34, UF-M35 Cobra, AS-SP30
  l- Officers - AS-1924, UF-M4 Radio, AS-SP30
  l- Vehicles - UF-L2 Bengal

2 (Units)
  l- General - MK-47, UF-M35 Cobra, UF-1942, UF-P33
  l- Officers - M3 Sorraia GPMG, UF-M4 Radio, UF-1942, UF-P33

Armor
2 (Units)
  l- AS-T25
1 (Unit)
  l- Bumblebee AT/AA

Air Force
2 (Units)
  l- UF-1939
1 (Unit)
  l- AS-HF-32

Navy
4 (Units)
  l- UF-CV35

Spoiler: Resources (click to show/hide)

1 Ore
1 Oil
0 Uranium
0 Chemicals
0 Exotic

[Kot]

AS-SP30: (1 Ore)(Personal, Small, General/Officer) An old Arstotzka-made 9mm semi-automatic pistol. It has a 10-round magazine and can fire quickly with moderate accuracy, at short range. Moderate stopping power. It is pretty reliable. It has a threaded barrel and can be fitted with a suppressor.

Thank God-Emperor it's not the AS-1909.

[Aseaheru]

 Neither gods or emperors have anything to do with this.

 Now, what shall we work on. Field guns? Upgunning the tank? Marksman rifles? working on the assault rifle?

 I got some old documents here talking about a under barrel grenade launcher for our rifle that we could work on, give our troops slightly more tactical flexibility.

[Funk]

I got some old documents here talking about a under barrel grenade launcher for our rifle that we could work on, give our troops slightly more tactical flexibility.

+1 to that.
It'll be a good step towards our own panzerfist.

[Kot]

Honestly, I'm more wondering about our naval invasion capability, as seems it will be the main type of combat we will see in nearby future.
Aphibious tanks? Actual landing crafts?

[Aseaheru]

We could just go for airmobile forces.

On the panzerfist comment, I am aiming for something thats actually useful. It probably wont be useful against tanks, however.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Thank God-Emperor it's not the AS-1909.

Funnily enough, the AS-1909 is so outdated it isn't even within the war museum of the original Arms Race.

[Kot]

I belive all of them were used as pavement for some of our roads. People feel strangely dissapointed and frustrated when using that road, despite there being no rational reason for that.

[Aseaheru]

 Thought I may aswell write up my proposal, so here it is. Much of the early bit is fluff.

 Also, I know something we may want to revise: Our AR. Mostly to give it more than a single top-mounted accessory rail, and to fix that gummy fire selector.

Spoiler: GLu-51 (click to show/hide)

 The Grenade Launcher(under) model of 1951 is a proposed caseless grenade launcher in 40mm designed to be mounted under a standard AS-AR34 or on one of the standard accessory rails pioneered by the same weapon(although as the only accessory rail on the AS-AR34 is on top it is advised that it is not mounted there). Indeed, the design is copied from a Arstotzkan proposal dating from the last years of their unification war.
 According to our records, the single prototype produced was lost in the fighting of the Reorganization Conflict.

 In any event, the system consists of a short barrel (just long enough to contain the grenades used), a short foregrip, a simple sighting system ranged out in 50 meter increments out to threehundred and fifty meters, and the hardware to mount it and fire it.

 Any additional time and effort that can be spared on the development of the system should go towards making it more reliable and additional ammunition loads beyond just high explosive. Historical records show proposals for flares, smoke, buckshot, HEAT, and atleast two forms of armor piercing rounds, one using magnesium based steel and the other manganese based, which appears to be something of an afterthought.

Target cost: 1 ore
Size: -edit this in-
Designation: Officer

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 What, you mean we dident use them to make shells to fire at the enemy? Demoralization of the enemy and destruction of them at the same time!

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Spoiler: GLu-51 (click to show/hide)

 The Grenade Launcher(under) model of 1951 is a proposed caseless grenade launcher in 40mm designed to be mounted under a standard AS-AR34 or on one of the standard accessory rails pioneered by the same weapon(although as the only accessory rail on the AS-AR34 is on top it is advised that it is not mounted there). Indeed, the design is copied from a Arstotzkan proposal dating from the last years of their unification war.
 According to our records, the single prototype produced was lost in the fighting of the Reorganization Conflict.

 In any event, the system consists of a short barrel (just long enough to contain the grenades used), a short foregrip, a simple sighting system ranged out in 50 meter increments out to threehundred and fifty meters, and the hardware to mount it and fire it.

 Any additional time and effort that can be spared on the development of the system should go towards making it more reliable and additional ammunition loads beyond just high explosive. Historical records show proposals for flares, smoke, buckshot, HEAT, and atleast two forms of armor piercing rounds, one using magnesium based steel and the other manganese based, which appears to be something of an afterthought.

Don't forget to add the target cost and the size of the Personal Equipment (Small, Medium, Large) that this is.

[Kot]

What, you mean we dident use them to make shells to fire at the enemy? Demoralization of the enemy and destruction of them at the same time!

We tried that but all of those malfunctioned. We even tried to use them as melee weapons but it jammed and you couldn't hit anyone with it anymore... don't ask how that works.

On the more serious note - I am not really for the grenade launcher design, since we need more of assault transport to get from island to island... maybe a helicopter of sorts, so we can blast Ride Of The Valkyries out of it? I could see a Drache happening, or maybe a Flying Banana? Some kind of landing craft (hovercraft?)? Amphibious tanks or at least transport vehicles?

[Aseaheru]

 What does the size mean for infantry stuff? Just, how large it is? Also, design updated slightly

 Kot, I would head more for a Kolibri style design, since they are generally smaller and, atleast in case of the Fa 223, had more reliable powerplants. Plus, well, they look better to me.

 However, we do have a complete lack of grenades and AT weapons, aswell as indirect fire for the infantry. Hopefully the GL can kill atleast three birds with one stone.

[Kot]

Kot, I would head more for a Kolibri style design, since they are generally smaller and, atleast in case of the Fa 223, had more reliable powerplants. Plus, well, they look better to me.

Cannot carry shit. We need transport/assault helicopter, not an glorified artillery spotter/parachute.

However, we do have a complete lack of grenades and AT weapons, aswell as indirect fire for the infantry. Hopefully the GL can kill atleast three birds with one stone.

Grenades, AT weapons and indirect fire doesn't exactly mean anything if you can't get it on enemy soil. And honestly, I don't expect armoured vehicles being that much of a problem, considering where we are, grenades are surely a problem but as it was proven before that lack of them certainly doesn't stop infantry from being effective and indirect fire... with 350 meter direct fire sight? Sure, you could proably fire it "by feeling", but that doesn't seem optimal in any way.

[Aseaheru]

 I said a Kolibri style design, not a direct copy.

 Who the hell said anything about direct fire sights? It wouldn't have the muzzle velocity for direct fire at 50m, letalone 350. Hell, I cant even think of a direct fire man-portable grenade launcher.
 Getting stuff on enemy soil is an issue, yes. Keeping our soil is also an issue, and is the issue this is aimed at addressing.
 The primary purpose is not to take out armor, its to give infantry something resembling grenades or a mortar.

[Kot]

I said a Kolibri style design, not a direct copy.

Eh, so you mean like intermeshing rotors? We will build ourselves a HH-43 Huskie, I'm okay with this.

Who the hell said anything about direct fire sights? It wouldn't have the muzzle velocity for direct fire at 50m, letalone 350. Hell, I cant even think of a direct fire man-portable grenade launcher.

Do you need line of sight to aim it? Yes, then it's direct fire. Literally all of the underslung grenade launchers, hell, almost all of man-portable grenade launchers are like that unless you're shooting without sights.

Getting stuff on enemy soil is an issue, yes. Keeping our soil is also an issue, and is the issue this is aimed at addressing.

There is a lot of neutral soil between us and them, and I belive that neutrals won't be very keen on attacking us first. What we need to do is to be as fast as possible and grab as much neutral soil as we can before they do.

The primary purpose is not to take out armor, its to give infantry something resembling grenades or a mortar.

And it's neither. Grenades are mostly used to clear out buildings and trenches and so on, while mortars take out enemies that are hidden behind shit at distance, while grenade launcher is mostly supression and hardpoint (as in, fortified MG position) destroying weapon.