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[Baffler]

Yeah, we may well not be able to get one without the other. A .225 round should be enough for our needs anyway. I'll support UR's version.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

So my vote goes for.

Revision #1
MAR-51
A scaled down version of MK-47 chambered for a new .225 caliber  round that is also 25% shorter than original MK-47 bullets. Much of the furniture has been replaced with wood, both to lower cost and decrease weight, and the magazine has been moved to the bottom of the rifle to reduce the weapon's profile. A cam mechanism has been installed to limit the weapon to one or three rounds per trigger pull, but can be disengaged to allow for fully automatic fire.

(Personal, Medium, General, target cost 1 ore.)

Revision #2
Yellowjacket II
Yellowjacket II  received a better, newer and more fuel efficient engine greatly increasing its range and maximum lifting weight and it is rearmed with four 0.5 machineguns that were purpose designed for aircraft use  Its main intended role is long range patrolling and attacking enemy ships or transports planes
[Medium Specialized Vehicle, cost 3 ore, 3 oil]

[Taricus]

What, you mean we can't just shave 10% off? Besides, I doubt we'd get a 25% weight reduction from the smaller rounds themselves. Furthermore if we want the .225 to actually be effective we'd have to make it just as long as .30 anyway.

[Baffler]

I assumed most of the weight reduction would be from a lighter barrel, receiver, magazines, and other stuff like that. And the .225 round is bigger with a higher muzzle velocity than 5.56x45 NATO, and that's hardly an underpowered cartridge. It doesn't handle quite as well, but it doesn't look like anyone has ever tried to chamber anything but falling-block rifles with it so there's not really much comparison.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

.225 to actually be effective we'd have to make it just as long as .30 anyway.

If we assume that 0.3 used by MK-47 is 7.62*51 than -25% of that will be 5.715*38.25. Roughly the same as AK-74's 5.45*39 and slightly weaker than NATO's 5.56x45

[Taricus]

Yeah, at any rate I'm still sticking with the .280 round. It'll allow or troops to mostly retain the killing power of the .30 without being as... cumbersome in regards to recoil as the standard round would. Furthermore the round would be intermediate between the NATO 5.56 and 7.62, which gives it pretty good viability.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

0.28*x may be anywhere in power depending on the x

[Taricus]

Lets assume 41 or 46 millimetres then.

[TopHat]

PTW.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Hmmm.... 7.11*46 is a full rifle round for me, somewhere in 6.5*50 league

[Taricus]

Hrm... 6.7*X mm/.260 round then?

[Parsely]

So my vote goes for.

Revision #1
MAR-51
A scaled down version of MK-47 chambered for a new .225 caliber  round that is also 25% shorter than original MK-47 bullets. Much of the furniture has been replaced with wood, both to lower cost and decrease weight, and the magazine has been moved to the bottom of the rifle to reduce the weapon's profile. A cam mechanism has been installed to limit the weapon to one or three rounds per trigger pull, but can be disengaged to allow for fully automatic fire.

(Personal, Medium, General, target cost 1 ore.)

+1

[Baffler]

So my vote goes for.

Revision #1
MAR-51
A scaled down version of MK-47 chambered for a new .225 caliber  round that is also 25% shorter than original MK-47 bullets. Much of the furniture has been replaced with wood, both to lower cost and decrease weight, and the magazine has been moved to the bottom of the rifle to reduce the weapon's profile. A cam mechanism has been installed to limit the weapon to one or three rounds per trigger pull, but can be disengaged to allow for fully automatic fire.

(Personal, Medium, General, target cost 1 ore.)

Revision #2
Yellowjacket II
Yellowjacket II  received a better, newer and more fuel efficient engine greatly increasing its range and maximum lifting weight and it is rearmed with four 0.5 machineguns that were purpose designed for aircraft use  Its main intended role is long range patrolling and attacking enemy ships or transports planes
[Medium Specialized Vehicle, cost 3 ore, 3 oil]

+1 to both of these.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I hope us ignoring order and developing no means of deployment will not hurt us much. I think better ship\helicopter next turn will be very necessary.

I propose to send such message to Prime minister

"While we agree that our army would benefit from better means of deployment, the nearest island is very close and we must conquer it with minimal causalities. This is why our goal is to provide them some close air support by developing a revolutionary aircraft and improving our fighters to provide even more fire support for ground troops and protect out transport aircrafts against enemy airforce. As you said our ability to produce those is limited and we must ensure they will survive for later use.
Finally we developed a lighter and smaller assault rifle necessary to fit more paratroopers in UF-1939 and make them more suited for urban and jungle warfare.

We urge you to focus our production on airforce because WW2 demonstrated that air superiority is very important in modern war

[Taricus]

Deployment isn't an issue at the moment, since we do have the option of paratroopers atleast.