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Author Topic: Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Game Over, Town Win  (Read 41444 times)

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #255 on: February 07, 2016, 04:18:14 pm »

Even if all the math worked out somehow that doing some action if there was a doc would be better for town and if there was no doc was better for scum, Why would the scum even do that since they are falling into the same fallacy you just mentioned since they wouldn't know who the doc even was. (If they did, the doc would be dead. And the rolecop is dead)

I meant it's fallacious to say you're town or scum based on the pointing out of statistics.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #256 on: February 07, 2016, 04:50:12 pm »

Even if all the math worked out somehow that doing some action if there was a doc would be better for town and if there was no doc was better for scum, Why would the scum even do that since they are falling into the same fallacy you just mentioned since they wouldn't know who the doc even was. (If they did, the doc would be dead. And the rolecop is dead)

I meant it's fallacious to say you're town or scum based on the pointing out of statistics.
Then why are you voting me?
OSG your in no danger why extend.

Did you really try to give us the highest winrate?  I mean if you think about your plan we have three options today, three options the next day, and three options on the day it actually matters cause scum will kill invest and then confirmed townie, that's a horrible plan if you even think about it, so did you not think about it, cause if you did walk me through how you though it was a good idea, because all you are saying right now is you tried but you didn't, you either half-assed it or missed the obvious, so which was it?
First of all, I am in danger, there are 3 votes on me.
I can't quite make out what you are saying after that about options.
I made a mistake advocating a no-lynch. Yes, a mistake. I am of the opinion that Hector made a mistake claiming cop. Everybody makes mistakes. However, mistakes do not equal scummyness.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #257 on: February 07, 2016, 07:33:07 pm »

Before I "react," let me rephrase your statement in my own terms to make sure we are on the same page.
If we lynch someone who isn't the Doc, then there are 2 targets left - the Doc claimer and the other guy. If the 'Doc' dies, the other guy is scum. Doc will roleblock the other guy and Hector will investigate, so if there is 1) no kill then the other guy is scum or 2) Hector dies, then the 'Doc' is scum, or 3) I die and 'Doc' is scum.
Right now, Hector is cop, TMS is confirmed townie. Fillipk, DA, and me are unknown. (to an arbitrary audience. Obviously I know I am town) If one of them claims doc (I'll just say me for this hypothetical situation. It could be DA or Fillipk as well.) So if I claim doc, we lynch either Fillipk or DA. Let's say Fillipk is scum for this hypothetical situation. If we lynch DA, then Fillipk Night kills me. And Hector investigates Fillipk. He reveals next day and we win. If Fillipk kills Hector, I roleblock him and he can't. So we win. Is this what you mean?

If it is, then it is all good to me. Yes, the doc should claim. I guess I was thinking too much in the numbers of everything without seeing the bigger picture. I will, however, hold back my own claim until you tell me that I understood what you said.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #258 on: February 07, 2016, 07:40:38 pm »

Then I am not the doc.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #259 on: February 07, 2016, 07:43:36 pm »

I'm not sure about it. Just 'cause the jailor is a bigger target. The issue being also if there is no jailor, the scum get a free fakeclaim, so let's wait on it, aye? Jailor doesn't need to claim to be useful right now.

Moonlit, what's this safe lynch nonsense? We're trying to lynch scum, not just survive 'til tomorrow.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #260 on: February 07, 2016, 07:48:34 pm »

Right... I understand the logic. But we are meant to be lynching scum, not the notiaikor.

Remember there might not actually be a jailor in the game.
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Re: Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #261 on: February 07, 2016, 07:48:37 pm »

I hope you realize what you signed up for.

OSG. If you're not the Doc, the you're a safe lynch.
No. I'm not. You don't even know if there is a doc. If there isn't a doc, then there is no such thing as a safe lynch. Which is why you need to vote for who you think is scummy.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #262 on: February 07, 2016, 07:49:37 pm »

That was the notjailor, not whatever my phone decided that was meant to be.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #263 on: February 07, 2016, 07:50:18 pm »

EBWOP: double ninja
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #264 on: February 07, 2016, 07:52:11 pm »

Why is he confirmed town?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #265 on: February 07, 2016, 07:55:31 pm »

What if the scum fakeclaims doc, and there isn't one? That would lead to two mislynches before we would know, and by then, the game would be over.

Also, why am I suddenly confirmed town?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #266 on: February 07, 2016, 07:59:00 pm »

How.

How.

HOW IS HE CONFIRMED TOWN?

He has done nothing that even slightly indicates him being town between you deciding he was a good lynch and you deciding he's 'confirmed' besides claiming vanilla town, which means nothing! He's been consistently advocating the worst possible strategy for the town for all of today, then changing his story as soon as he's challenged on it.

fillipk, how exactly are you going to get lynched with zero votes on you?

OSG, why exactly do you think that it's a good idea for the jailer to claim today?
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Re: Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #267 on: February 07, 2016, 08:02:36 pm »

We explained. Seems like an OMGUS because now you have my vote definitely on you, Deus.

No... No you didn't.

Three people have asked you why OSG is confirmed town, including OSG. Enlighten us, please.
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Re: Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #268 on: February 07, 2016, 08:07:46 pm »

That's not a confirmed town. And how is anything I have done an OMGUS?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LVIII: Day 3: Whoops, lost track of another brain...
« Reply #269 on: February 07, 2016, 08:11:54 pm »

That's not an OMGUS... it's a sensible question, since other folk asked it too.

Your scumdar is far too subjective there. How does quick posting read as scummy?
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