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[JoshuaFH]

Did Denmark have a slavery problem as well at some point in history?

[Grim Portent]

Did Denmark have a slavery problem as well at some point in history?

Most of Europe did, the Danes included. Theirs ended in the 1800s I think, though they banned shipping slaves across the Atlantic earlier than that. I think most of their slaves were in their colonies, which is actually how most of the colonial powers used their slaves. Surprisingly few arrived in Europe to stay, though given the number of poor people in most European societies at the time cheap labour wasn't an issue at home so I suppose it's not all that surprising.

[Il Palazzo]

Protip: The Dutch don't live in Denmark.

[Grim Portent]

I just assumed he was asking about the Danes as an incidental aside to the Dutch issue.

[martinuzz]

Hostage taker, Abdel Rahman A., an Amsterdam citizen that already had a criminal record for arms posession, died in hospital. I guess we'll never know his motives.
During the whole situation. police sneakily rescued 70 hostages from the building, leaving only the 4 hiding in the closet and the direct hostage.

[Grim Portent]

Hostage taker died in hospital. I guess we'll never know his motives.

By the sounds of things he wasn't exactly good at it and his demands were rather stupid, so I'd assume he was some degree of mentally unhinged. I imagine the police will find out some stuff when they track down his personal effects, he's likely to have left a trail of internet and phone activity that can be used to gain some insight.

[martinuzz]

Our news showing the end of the hostage situation.

https://www.npostart.nl/nos-journaal/23-02-2022/POW_05159479

The police is opening a (standard) investigation into the use of lethal car force.

[da_nang]

In other news, a Finnish citizen's initiative for a NATO referendum has passed the signature requirement.

The Finnish Parliament has six months to process the initiative.

[Loud Whispers]

In other news, a Finnish citizen's initiative for a NATO referendum has passed the signature requirement.

The Finnish Parliament has six months to process the initiative.

They don't really have anything to lose by joining NATO at this point

[scriver]

I mean. I'm still kinda against joining the Nato myself, even though I'm probably the least against joining nato I've ever been right now.

[delphonso]

Can you share why? As an American I'm pretty oblivious to the topic.

[Loud Whispers]

Can you share why? As an American I'm pretty oblivious to the topic.

Probably two reasons
1. Countries like Sweden and Finland have been traditionally very neutral to try avoid getting into conflicts with neighbours. It hasn't always worked out, but traditions are traditions, and there is an argument to be made in avoiding getting tangled alliances
2. Joining NATO could in future result in pressure from NATO allies to take joint action against Russia, or get involved in another Iraq or Syrian war in the event that Iran, Turkey, USA, UK or France does something stupid again. Which is pretty likely all things considered

[martinuzz]

The Netherlands was neutral in WW1. We were neutral in WW2 as well, until Hitler invaded us, occupied us and killed just about all our jews, gays and gypsies.

[Loud Whispers]

Yeah neutrality tends to only work when you're armed to the teeth and the cost/benefit ratio of messing with you is decidedly costly

[martinuzz]

Opposition leader Jesse Klaver (GroenLinks) has asked for an investigation into the connections with, and possible financing of political parties and politicians by Russia in the Netherlands.

He has also requested that parliament members of our two populist parties, PVV and FvD, are restricted from accessing confidential information about the war in Ukraine, when the government briefs parliament.

Both PVV and FvD voted against the sanctions, and especially the FvD has always been outspokenly pro-Putin.