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[TD1]

"Some," he says.

*Chortles*

[Dorsidwarf]

I sort of misunderstood the context of what lw was saying but too lazy to change the first half now

[Loud Whispers]

Hey, I've said it before and I'll say it again. The DUP have - for the first time - made me glad I voted for them. Without them, who knows what wacky ideas May would have for NI. No offence to any one from Great Britain here, but mainlanders are notorious for understanding less than even the continentals about Northern Ireland.

Ofttimes I wonder if it's self imposed ignorance. I recall one memorable Scottish fellow who, when I mentioned the main city in Northern Ireland, said "Oh! You've been to Dublin?"

It's no secret that the only government which wants NI to be a part of the ROI more than the one in Dublin is the one in Westminster

I suspect that some Leave MPs may be inclined to vote against the bill because they view it as effectively worthless from the point of view of Leaving, while some Remain MPs might want to take it because the alternative is likely to be a no-deal Brexit which they want even less

Yeah it's a bit of a mixed bag, since the House of Commons just gave themselves the authority to take control of Brexit negotiations in the event of Theresa May's deal failing. God knows what the MPs will do if they took charge

[hector13]

This also happened.

A non-binding opinion from a European Court of Justice advocate general that the UK can unilaterally decide to stay in the EU, should it come to that. Unlikely given the UK government have said that's not going to happen, and the EU don't want it to happen, but another option for when the deal is inevitably voted down next week.

However, Jezza's crew have also said that if the vote goes against the government, they're going to seek a vote of no confidence in the government. This would give the UK government fourteen days to win back the confidence of parliament or call a general election, assuming they don't win it (lol)

Not sure how quickly a GE can be sorted out, the last one took place six weeks after it was announced. That wouldn't be great given it puts us at the start of February and ~30 days 'til the deadline.

shit's gettin' real guys

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Jezza shall ride his Mao-style bicycles through the maw of parliament and emerge a living god, as is written.

[Loud Whispers]

I'm not a big fan of the GE option, at least as it's timed now. If Theresa May would resign first then we could get this GE on the road

Jezza shall ride his Mao-style bicycles through the maw of parliament and emerge a living god, as is written.

Maocycles are banned in parliament, alongside suits of armour

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Jezza shall ride his Mao-style bicycles through the maw of parliament and emerge a living god, as is written.

Maocycles are banned in parliament, alongside suits of armour

A common mistranslation, the prophecy states that they are "banned in parliament" because parliament will no longer exist after Jezza enters riding upon one.

[Loud Whispers]

A common mistranslation, the prophecy states that they are "banned in parliament" because parliament will no longer exist after Jezza enters riding upon one.

The horsemen of the apocalypse would get my vote tbh

Also the Europeans are cracking down on the N'drangheta

[RedKing]

This also happened.

I'mma laugh my ass off if the UK England winds up being saved from itself by Scotland.

[TD1]

So you'll laugh if... the UK.... saves the UK?

Besides, I fail how to see rejecting the democratic process as "saving" anything.

[RedKing]

Because Brexit was the political equivalent of drunk-dialing an ex at 3am?

Sure, it seemed like a good idea at the time (ok, it seemed like a good idea to *some* people who I assume were loaded), but now...

[TD1]

The.... entire point of democracy is that it didn't just appeal to "some" people.
Also, you forgot Wales, lol.

And I'd rephrase that. "Drunk decision mate why'd you do that idiot" doesn't make you many friends among the people who put some thought into their vote.
I get the impression the number of people that applies to would surprise you.

Also, been having fun looking at the regional brexitdown for the referendum again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

Northern Ireland fascinates me. The capital actually had a Leave vote in one quarter. East Belfast (act shocked). But North Belfast was only Remain by less than one percent. West and South Belfast were overwhelmingly Remain at London-levels. That's a fairly damning divide between Protestant and Catholic areas (and economic. South in particular is where the money's at). Parts of Antrim were more than 60% leave.

Really, it's quite interesting.

[RedKing]

I will never not mock Leavers. Especially because it turned out pretty much as I expected -- no plan, a complete clusterfuck, and the chief proponents of the whole swindle (Cameron, Farage and BoJo) have largely jumped ship and left it to others to clean up their mess. I'm not interested in "making friends" or "building bridges", because I have no doubt that the True Believers, if given a second referendum right now, would still vote Leave despite knowing what a clusterfuck it would turn out to be.

You may have had well-intentioned, earnestly held beliefs that caused you to vote Leave (distrust/distaste of the EU is one example), just as there were a number of people who voted Trump not because they're alt-Right Nazis, but because they couldn't stomach Hillary Clinton. I get that. I still want to smack those people upside the head EVERY DAMN DAY until they admit they were fucking idiots, but I get that.

Doesn't change the fact that the outcome was foreseeable from a mile away, amidst a chorus of well-reasoned (and otherwise) voices yelling "DON'T DO IT".

It was #YOLO at a national level, which is incredibly irresponsible.

[TD1]

*Shrug*
In that case, I don't feel particularly inclined towards discussing it with you. Mockery is bad for my digestion 

[Cathar]

I feel a bit for people who bought into that hard, cold lie that Europe was smothering UK, but I have only comptempt for people who, knowing all the facts, lied to their faces. Brexit was idiotic and based on a campaign of misinformation, which was not helped by the fact the newspaper had (and still have) no idea how European standards are made and never bothered asking any commission member.

The whole process was farcical, honnest. UK gov pitted two sides against each other without bothering to inform them of the facts before asking their opinion. Not latching on to UK, they are far from being the only ones to do that.
Yelling "power to the people" while running campaigns over campaigns to purposefully disinform them is a growing trend I find absolutely distasteful.

I still want to smack those people upside the head EVERY DAMN DAY until they admit they were fucking idiots, but I get that.

I feel you.

I hope lessons are learnt real quick because this is pretty much the worse time to play alchemy with the fate of european nations.