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[martinuzz]

The president of Poland has surprised friend and foe by vetoing the two new laws that were going to destroy the separation of powers in Poland.

According to the president, the new laws divide the country too much to be allowed to pass. Perhaps the threat by some EU members that they would use the 'nuclear option' (which means, kick Poland out of the EU) if the laws were passed also played a part in the president's decision.

The PiS is not happy now.

[Loud Whispers]

Poland-Britain commonwealth wen

[Sheb]

The president of Poland has surprised friend and foe by vetoing the two new laws that were going to destroy the separation of powers in Poland.

According to the president, the new laws divide the country too much to be allowed to pass. Perhaps the threat by some EU members that they would use the 'nuclear option' (which means, kick Poland out of the EU) if the laws were passed also played a part in the president's decision.

The PiS is not happy now.

Article 7 is not the kicking out of the EU, but the suspesion of voting rights for the country within the EU.

[Loud Whispers]

Poland-Britain commonwealth wen

"We won't let them have our sovereignty unless we give it to them! Speaking of which, Poland, want some sovereignty?"

Spoiler: hey kids, wanna buy some sovereignty? (click to show/hide)

[SaberToothTiger]

even considering how despised the Only True Party TM is, they'll win the next election, they have no one to lose to anymore (and they might simply fraud their way through either way)

the opposition is so pathetic they can't rally FOR anything, only against PiS retardation and not even effectively at that

SAD!

[martinuzz]

The EU has threatened Bangladesh with economic sanctions, if they do not take back their migrants.
Apparently the second largest group of economic migrants using human smuggling routes into Greece and Italy are not from African countries, but instead, from Bangladesh.
Note that none of the Bangladese even have the slightest chance of getting a permit to stay. Bangladesh is a 'safe' country, they are all economic migrants and will not get a visum. However, Bangladesh has been refusing to let them back into the country.
If Bangladesh does not immediatly makes a deal about taking their fellow countrymen back, starting september, the EU will impose economic sanctions and embargo.

[Sheb]

Note that none of the Bangladese even have the slightest chance of getting a permit to stay. Bangladesh is a 'safe' country, they are all economic migrants and will not get a visum. However, Bangladesh has been refusing to let them back into the country.

Note entirely true. Sure, they probably won't get full refugee status, but Italian judges have given some kind of protections to at least a fourth of incoming Bengladeshi. (Source: Economist) It's the same retarded European Policy of making it really hard to get here, but being quite generous once you set foot on the continent.

[Neonivek]

It's the same retarded European Policy of making it really hard to get here, but being quite generous once you set foot on the continent.

Quite related.

But it is muuuch harder to scale back what you offer then it is to scale back the how tough it is to get in.

So I don't expect it to change anytime soon.

[Antioch]

Note that none of the Bangladese even have the slightest chance of getting a permit to stay. Bangladesh is a 'safe' country, they are all economic migrants and will not get a visum. However, Bangladesh has been refusing to let them back into the country.

Note entirely true. Sure, they probably won't get full refugee status, but Italian judges have given some kind of protections to at least a fourth of incoming Bengladeshi. (Source: Economist) It's the same retarded European Policy of making it really hard to get here, but being quite generous once you set foot on the continent.

I find the term "some form of protection" rather vague, what does it imply?

[Sheb]

That depends a lot from countries to countries, but generally it at least mean that you are not to be deported, even if it falls short of refugees status. Not sure if it grants things like the right to move across Schengen or the right to work. The original article doesn't go into details about what exactly that entails, and it's probably a bunch of different statutes.

[martinuzz]

In Germany, a asylum seeker who was turned down stabbed people in a supermarket. One 50-year old man died, 5 people were injured.
The man was then chased out of the supermarket by other customers, and police could apprehend him after some random guy knocked him unconscious at a bus stop, with a metal bar.

German police are now raiding the asylum seeker center the man lived at, in Hamburg.

The man had lost his asylum case, but Germany was unable to deport him, because they could not prove the man's nationality.
He was known to the police for using drugs and having psychiatric problems.

[martinuzz]

In unrelated news, Italy has passed a new law which makes vaccination of children below age 16 against measels and 9 other diseases obligatory.
The law was passed after a measels epidemic struck Italy this year, affecting 3300 children, of whom two died of the measels.

Parent will henceforth have to be able to provide proof of vaccination, or their children will not be welcome in daycare / school, and they can be fined up to 500 euros.

[redwallzyl]

In unrelated news, Italy has passed a new law which makes vaccination of children below age 16 against measels and 9 other diseases obligatory.
The law was passed after a measels epidemic struck Italy this year, affecting 3300 children, of whom two died of the measels.

Parent will henceforth have to be able to provide proof of vaccination, or their children will not be welcome in daycare / school, and they can be fined up to 500 euros.

Good.

[Neonivek]

The ability to opt out of vaccination is HIGHLY dependent on how many people opt out versus how many people opt in... and IF people who opt out congregate (which they often do).

When we don't get enough vaccinations for herd immunity then yeah... People lose the ability to opt out except for medical reasons.

I am also in support of mandatory vaccinations. But stipulate that it can be relaxed where it isn't necessary (but as we are learning... It VERY often is)

[martinuzz]

I am in favour of mandatory vaccination as well. I was a bit surprised though that Italy of all places would enforce it. Then again, antivaxxing is not really a catholic thing.

I'm not sure though if I agree with the 'not allow children in daycare or school' part. Daycare, mkay, I guess. School? No, you are punishing the child (with a delay in it's development, and/or by giving them a nickname for bullies, Typhoid Mario) for it's parents's wrongs. That can't be good.