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[Neonivek]

I'm not sure though if I agree with the 'not allow children in daycare or school' part. Daycare, mkay, I guess. School? No, you are punishing the child (with a delay in it's development, and/or by giving them a nickname for bullies, Typhoid Mario) for it's parents's wrongs. That can't be good.

They are specifically barring the children from being in the areas where they pose the most risk to other children

It is a "No smoking in the fireworks factory" law

Yeah it is terrible for the child, but they aren't just doing it to convince parents to vaccinate.

[hector13]

Guess I get to parrot the support for mandatory vaccinations, and agree with Neo that not allowing an unvaccinated child to go to school isn't so much a punishment for them as it is to avoid the spread of diseases that really shouldn't be spreading.

[martinuzz]

Heh. Our Dutch state secretary of education was slapped on the wrist by the judges of the Raad van State (the Court that deals with cases vs the state).
Secretary Sander Dekker had refused to finance an islamic primary school, after one of it's board members refused to withdraw a statement from Facebook in which he swore allegiance to IS.
Dekker was of the opinion that the board members of the school were incapable of organizing education that improves citizenship and social integration, and thus did not approve of government funding for the school.

The judge however ruled that he did not properly motivate his grounds for not funding the school, and he is now forced to give them the funding after all.

This was yesterday's news.
Todays news: A group of 15 islamic primary schools in the Netherlands has made a joint statement in the NRC newspaper, condemning the new islamic school, and supporting Dekker in his original assessment to not approve funding.
"The board has absolutely no experience or affinity with education", and "they are cowboys with no heed for public interests".

Still, this doesn't change the judges' ruling. Coming september, 184 children in Amsterdam will start their education at a government funded islamic school with IS sympathies.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/islamitische-basisscholen-verzetten-zich-tegen-nieuwe-islamitische-middelbare-school-in-amsterdam~a4508957/
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/07/30/moslimbasisscholen-mijd-middelbare-islamschool-sio-12302358-a1568435

EDIT: ohwait, no, it's not a primary school, it's a highschool. The 15 islamic schools that wrote the letter are warning parents of islamic children that were on their primary schools not to send them to the new islamic highschool.

[Sheb]

Heh. Our Dutch state secretary of education was slapped on the wrist by the judges of the Raad van State (the Court that deals with cases vs the state).
Secretary Sander Dekker had refused to finance an islamic primary school, after one of it's board members refused to withdraw a statement from Facebook in which he swore allegiance to IS.
Dekker was of the opinion that the board members of the school were incapable of organizing education that improves citizenship and social integration, and thus did not approve of government funding for the school.

The judge however ruled that he did not properly motivate his grounds for not funding the school, and he is now forced to give them the funding after all.

This was yesterday's news.
Todays news: A group of 15 islamic primary schools in the Netherlands has made a joint statement in the NRC newspaper, condemning the new islamic school, and supporting Dekker in his original assessment to not approve funding.
"The board has absolutely no experience or affinity with education", and "they are cowboys with no heed for public interests".

Still, this doesn't change the judges' ruling. Coming september, 184 children in Amsterdam will start their education at a government funded islamic school with IS sympathies.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/islamitische-basisscholen-verzetten-zich-tegen-nieuwe-islamitische-middelbare-school-in-amsterdam~a4508957/
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/07/30/moslimbasisscholen-mijd-middelbare-islamschool-sio-12302358-a1568435

EDIT: ohwait, no, it's not a primary school, it's a highschool. The 15 islamic schools that wrote the letter are warning parents of islamic children that were on their primary schools not to send them to the new islamic highschool.

So, procedural ground? Can't he just re-refuse the demand with better motivation?

[Antioch]

Heh. Our Dutch state secretary of education was slapped on the wrist by the judges of the Raad van State (the Court that deals with cases vs the state).
Secretary Sander Dekker had refused to finance an islamic primary school, after one of it's board members refused to withdraw a statement from Facebook in which he swore allegiance to IS.
Dekker was of the opinion that the board members of the school were incapable of organizing education that improves citizenship and social integration, and thus did not approve of government funding for the school.

The judge however ruled that he did not properly motivate his grounds for not funding the school, and he is now forced to give them the funding after all.

This was yesterday's news.
Todays news: A group of 15 islamic primary schools in the Netherlands has made a joint statement in the NRC newspaper, condemning the new islamic school, and supporting Dekker in his original assessment to not approve funding.
"The board has absolutely no experience or affinity with education", and "they are cowboys with no heed for public interests".

Still, this doesn't change the judges' ruling. Coming september, 184 children in Amsterdam will start their education at a government funded islamic school with IS sympathies.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/islamitische-basisscholen-verzetten-zich-tegen-nieuwe-islamitische-middelbare-school-in-amsterdam~a4508957/
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2017/07/30/moslimbasisscholen-mijd-middelbare-islamschool-sio-12302358-a1568435

EDIT: ohwait, no, it's not a primary school, it's a highschool. The 15 islamic schools that wrote the letter are warning parents of islamic children that were on their primary schools not to send them to the new islamic highschool.

The board of this new Islamic school consists for a large part of the board of the previous Islamic highschool in Amsterdam, which was closed down because of failing education in 2010.

[martinuzz]

A Dutch judge has ruled that 8 suspected drug dealers can not be extradited to Belgium, because the conditions in the Belgian prisons are "inhumane and humiliating".
With the verdict, all further requests for extradition to Belgium are suspended.

Last may, 17 people were arrested during a joint operation of Dutch and Belgian police. They are suspected of membership of a criminal organisation that smuggles drugs from South America to Europe on a large scale, using the port of Antwerp, amongst other ports.

The Flemish court had asked for the extradition of 8 of the suspects. Usually, that's just a formality between EU members, but now, the Dutch judge did not allow it.
The reason for the verdict is the report by the CPT committee, the EU organisation for the prevention of torture, that was published two weeks ago.

The CPT calls the conditions in the Belgian prisons 'the worst we have seen in the EU in 27 years'.
For years now, Belgian prisons are suffering from overpopulation, outdated infrastructure, and lack of staff.
In some prisons, prisoners are packed with 3 people in a single person cell, with mouldy walls, no toilet, and no running water.
Frequent guard strikes make matters worse. When the guards are on strike, there isn't enough staff to allow the prisoners outdoor time, showers, telephone calls or family visits.

In may 2016, during one of these strikes, a Dutch judge already forbade the extradition of prisoners to Belgium. This measure was cancelled a month later, when the strike had ended.

The difference now is that the CPT, and the Dutch judge, rule that the situation in Belgian prisons is inhumane and humiliating even without strikes.
The International Chamber for Legal Assistance is now investigating if 'prisoners in Belgian prisons in general are at risk of being subjected to inhumane or humiliating treatment'.

[Loud Whispers]

yurop is kill

[martinuzz]

Italy has seized and confiscated a German ship for 'furthering clandestine immigration'.
The ship, belonging to the German ngo 'Jugend Rettet' (=Youth Saves), yet sailing under a Dutch flag, was caught taking aboard refugees in Libyan waters that were still accompanied by human traffickers, and were not in immediate danger.

With this the Italian government is trying to send the message that they are completely fed up with rescue organisations that take their ships right up to Libyan waters to pick up immigrants, instead of restricting themselves to rescueing sinking ships in international waters. Over the past 4 years, 600 thousand immigrants have reached Italy via the Libyan route.

Initially the organisations moved closer to the Libyan coast to do just that, rescue sinking ships. Rescue operations further out in the Mediterranean often proved to be too late. But it has prompted human traffickers to change their tactics. They don't even bother using ships anymore that can possibly make it across the Mediterranean. Instead they just send overcrowded rubber boats, fully expecting they will be picked up by rescue ships as soon as they leave Libyan coastal waters.

The Italian authorities even suspect a lot of the ships have direct contact with the smugglers, coordinating with them when and where to pick up the next boat.
To prevent this, the government in Rome has come up with a official code of conduct for rescue organisations. It requires them to take Italian police officers aboard, that will oversee their work and prevent cooperation with smugglers. So far, only 3 out of 8 organisations operating in the area have signed the code of conduct.

Jugend Rettet did not sign the code. Italian authorities however deny that the ship and it's crew have been detained for that reason.
The crew has been interrogated by Italian police today. It is unsure if any charges will be filed against them.

[smjjames]

How long before Italy decides to start patrolling the area with it's navy?
...

how big IS Italy's navy? *goes and looks on wiki* edit: About typical for European navies that are on the mediterranean.

[Sheb]

How long before Italy decides to start patrolling the area with it's navy?
...

how big IS Italy's navy? *goes and looks on wiki* edit: About typical for European navies that are on the mediterranean.

It is actually. Well, in international waters at least.

[martinuzz]

Polish government refuses to stop allowing companies to cut down the ancient, official Unesco world heritage forest of Bialowieza, despite heavy criticism from both the EU and the UN.

Inb4 Russia sends in the druids to protect the endangered Russian speaking trees

EDIT: the Polish government even said they want to get rid of the Unesco status, because 'it was granted illegally'.

[Loud Whispers]

Why would they cut down an ancient forest

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The trees are globalists.

[sluissa]

People pay good for old wood.

[Arx]

Why would they cut down an ancient forest

The aging population makes healthcare challenging.