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[Sergarr]

Anyway, who wants to bet that Erdogan will pull a page from Muhammed VI's manual and start dumping refugees in the Syrian border? Except Kurdish refugees, I guess. Heaven help you if you are kurdish

They already tried doing that, by setting up refugee camps inside of Syria proper.

[xxseuzxx]

Its funny how europe sailed towards despotic amoral fucks again.
Its what you get when you subjects instead of citizens.

[smjjames]

Its funny how europe sailed towards despotic amoral fucks again.
Its what you get when you subjects instead of citizens.

You mean towards Erdogan?

[xxseuzxx]

Merkel and such humanoids.

[smjjames]

I don't see Merkel and Hollande (isn't that like, a dutch name?) and Cameron as despotic. Not on the level of Erdogan anyway.

[xxseuzxx]

Yet..
But in the end such "strong wo(men)" always go towards their own agendas.
If i had a better grasp in english i would start to make a parody of the modern european poli(ticks) based around the berserker world.
In this continent, is the destiny of europe controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the European Parliament hovering above? At least it is true that Europeans have no control; even over their own will.
 Now its the time to assign your leaders to the godhand.
 

[Antioch]

Erdogan going full dictator so openly is something that should be impossible. Abusing a terrorism threat to destroy all rights is a move done so many times by dictators before. The fact that he is largely getting away with it ridiculous.

[ChairmanPoo]

The reason it has been done by so many before him is because it works

[martinuzz]

Erdogan going full dictator so openly is something that should be impossible. Abusing a terrorism threat to destroy all rights is a move done so many times by dictators before. The fact that he is largely getting away with it ridiculous.

Why? France gets away with it after the Paris attacks (national state of emergency ever since, planned to go on for a few years, with extra special permissions for police and army, and curfews. Erdogan is just going like "hey I can do what France can do too!"

[Loud Whispers]

I don't see Merkel and Hollande (isn't that like, a dutch name?) and Cameron as despotic. Not on the level of Erdogan anyway.

No, european governments are just decentralized authoritarian complexes, so you can't stop them by removing the leader, it's the same from the smallest blade of grass to the tallest mountain. Take for example the Dutch or German twitter thought police ready to knock on your door if you hatethink online or the Britbureaus et friends collecting loads of data for... Something. Not sure what they're doing with it, but they have it. And then Sweden where if you get bombed the gov will treat is as vandalism if you are not the right Swede.

[Morrigi]

double post

[Morrigi]

-snip-

George Soros, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Swedish government funding the ESI? It can't be! That's just a right-wing conspiracy!

Viktor Orban was right.

[Loud Whispers]

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2016-01/06/mass-surveillance-william-binney-nsa-uk-ip-bill
So this is what they're using that data for
2sp00ky4me

-snip-

George Soros, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Swedish government funding the ESI? It can't be! That's just a right-wing conspiracy!

Viktor Orban was right.

Straight from their website
The usual suspects don't surprise me though, interesting to note is the UK Foreign Office was a previous supporter of them, I'm guessing under Blair or Brown?

[Morrigi]

The DFID is also on the list, and part of the UK government.

[Antioch]

Erdogan going full dictator so openly is something that should be impossible. Abusing a terrorism threat to destroy all rights is a move done so many times by dictators before. The fact that he is largely getting away with it ridiculous.

Why? France gets away with it after the Paris attacks (national state of emergency ever since, planned to go on for a few years, with extra special permissions for police and army, and curfews. Erdogan is just going like "hey I can do what France can do too!"

The scale of Erdogan's repression is a multitude worse than what France is doing. There is almost no comparing. France hasn't arrested 2000 people for insulting the president or closed newspapers for being too critical.