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[Aseaheru]

*whispered* Lindner carbines someday...

Hmmm... Wonder if we can develop the Minié ball a few decades early. Would allow us to rifle our rifles without sacrificing rate of fire (which is why muskets where used for... about 400 years after rifling? Probably longer.). Or we could just head right for Lindners...

[3_14159]

I don't think there is a steamship - it's national effort, so the most they could have done is to invest in the shipyard for it.
Even if not,

The paddles and required shape causes it to perform poorly with even minor waves, so it needs to stick to rivers and the inland lake.

It's not a threat to us, and I'd rather not risk our ships on lakes and rivers.

[Kot]

Hmmm... Wonder if we can develop the Minié ball a few decades early.

We can try, it might end badly tho.

I don't think there is a steamship - it's national effort, so the most they could have done is to invest in the shipyard for it.
Even if not,

The paddles and required shape causes it to perform poorly with even minor waves, so it needs to stick to rivers and the inland lake.

It's not a threat to us, and I'd rather not risk our ships on lakes and rivers.

I can't hear you over the sound of RULE BRITTANIA and exploding steamships.

[fillipk]

We could refit our boats to be useable on land and overwhelm people with our slow tanks.

We could put them on wheels or treads, cut out the bottom and get people to push them from the inside while our gunners lay waste to their armies, horrible on rough terrain but a great landing force.

[3_14159]

I can't hear you over the sound of RULE BRITTANIA and exploding steamships.

Which'll happen regardless of whether our ships are nearby or not; the whole design looks like it'd be ready to spontaneously ungergo exothermic reaction.

@Zanzetkuken: Does the Atterton Monarchy actually possess a steamship?

[tryrar]

Out of those, I'd go for the minie ball first since that makes rifling at least practical(smoothbore muskets are more practical than rifled ones for several reason until the minie ball came about), but let's save that for either a revision or next turn

As for the steamship, it doesn't sound like it would be a threat. At all. I'd rather we go after pirates first. Though, if they do continue to pursue steam tech they might be able to spark an industrial revolution(which could lead to them outpacing us industrially), so we need to start thinking in that direction soon.

[Kot]

They can only get so rekt.

I can't hear you over the sound of RULE BRITTANIA and exploding steamships.

Which'll happen regardless of whether our ships are nearby or not; the whole design looks like it'd be ready to spontaneously ungergo exothermic reaction.

Look up the OOC thread.

[Kashyyk]

@Zanzetkuken: Does the Atterton Monarchy actually possess a steamship?

As of the beginning of this turn, they have a single steamship. They spent last turn building the test-only prototype and the drydock.

[10ebbor10]

Anyway, a few more questions.

Do we need to revise our ships if we upgrade the guns?

Can we design new ammo types at the same time as the gun? Do ammo types transfer between weaponry?

[Happerry]

Answering questions here so that everyone knows.

Do we need to revise our ships if we upgrade the guns?

Can we design new ammo types at the same time as the gun? Do ammo types transfer between weaponry?

If the cannons are the same class (for example, six pound cannons for all current ships), no.

If designed with a weapon, then the ammo type would only work with that weapon, unless a later weapon states it can use that type of ammunition as well.  If the ammunition is designed by itself, then the ammunition can be made to work with multiple existing weapons.  This is applicable to a fair amount of other technologies (ex. Steam Engines) as well.

So given this, I think I'm going to drop my plans to convince people to use our revision phase for explosive shot, as I'd prefer our 'special ammo' type things to be as widely used as possible. Well, widely used by us, not our enemies.

Anyone want to try to revise the Brown Bess Musket into a carbine of our own, or does someone have a better idea for what to revise this turn? Assuming we don't use our revision to upgrade our new cannon.

[10ebbor10]

We might try to further reinforce our resource base by revising a civilian version of our ship. The Brig was a popular early 19 the century merchant craft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig

[Kot]

Well, what we have is basically a Brig that has been specifically built for fighting ships (aka more guns, cargo bays turned into ammo storage and so on), so I guess the revision will be easy.

[fillipk]

We could refit our boats to be useable on land and overwhelm people with our slow tanks.

We could put them on wheels or treads, cut out the bottom and get people to push them from the inside while our gunners lay waste to their armies, horrible on rough terrain but a great landing force.

I know this was never popularized in real life but other then horrible rough terrain movement are there any big problems that make this not worth it?

[Kot]

We could refit our boats to be useable on land and overwhelm people with our slow tanks.

We could put them on wheels or treads, cut out the bottom and get people to push them from the inside while our gunners lay waste to their armies, horrible on rough terrain but a great landing force.

I know this was never popularized in real life but other then horrible rough terrain movement are there any big problems that make this not worth it?

Weight. It's fucking easy to take over, after all it's easier to board something from land than from sea. Easy to destroy, you just need to take out one wheel and a bigger stone can do that. Horrible any terrain movement. Basically everything is wrong with this.
EDIT:
Also not much useful when your cannons are all sideways. There is a reason why you usually want to have the gun pointing forward in a tank.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Should I roll up for the Imperial 6 pound artillery or are more features going to be added to it?