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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17640 on: April 28, 2016, 07:15:07 pm »

At no point did I argue it ought to be allowed. I'm just pointing out that is a possibility.
We don't want you to, though. Because chances are someone MIGHT be inspired to try.

And nobody wants to hear about every single way everything can be cheesed, regardless of your opinion on whether to do it or not.
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« Reply #17641 on: April 28, 2016, 07:20:18 pm »

Again, I'm not suggesting we actually do it. Much like how when I envisioned Ramp-Cannon Alanis, I don't actually want it to be implemented.

We would apparently like you to keep OP visions to yourself.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17642 on: April 28, 2016, 07:25:22 pm »

I already thought of an explanation anyway, just to shut Emp up.

1. The strongest ones were co-opted already by the Multiverse directly. The mission is just to get another batch.
2. Only a small number of players are going on this (compensated by people playing their dead characters, even unstatted). The number of people you can bring with you is limited as you need a small group.
3. There are other groups going to collect the dead.
4. You have a time limit and if you don't keep to it, you get horribly killed by what are more or less the robot guard dogs of Hell. Even then, you will get chased down by said guard dogs if you stay too long.
5. Other characters may simply just not WANT to come back. Or can't. ItE's friends were devoured by Trespassers, for instance, and so no longer exist. Some may be staying to fight off the Trespasser threat from the afterlife.

Have I properly sated the anti-cheesing requirement (which I wouldn't have had to put in in the first place had it not even been pointed out)?

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17643 on: April 28, 2016, 07:28:09 pm »

.....can I bring in the Hero's Shade
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17644 on: April 28, 2016, 07:28:31 pm »

And nobody wants to hear about every single way everything can be cheesed, regardless of your opinion on whether to do it or not.
I am pointing this out, because I consider the risks that someone will try regardless of whether or not I say it anyway are high enough to point it out. Not because it sounds like it would ever work, but rather because it may be in their character to try, and that it is therefore something to plan for. I mean there are at least two characters with numerous fallen compatriots and one of them already went off on a tirade about their loss earlier on.

Allow me to repeat: I do not believe this will be done, it is blatantly obvious it will never be allowed. I do not believe there is any argument that forces this to be done either, because most of the details on the process are completely unknown. What I do believe is that it is in-character for some to try, and that therefore it something to limit.

It, after all, would make for quite an good RP opportunity, characters realizing that they can't save everyone and I would argue that just ignoring it rather than allowing those to chase ultimately futile attempts at revival could be wasting a good chance for character development.

Or can't. ItE's friends were devoured by Trespassers, for instance, and so no longer exist.
Okay, so innately souless beings won't be there, right? Just confirming because in my current writeup for Delacroix's world, souls do not exist.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17645 on: April 28, 2016, 07:30:19 pm »

How does this affect the Nix's Tear perk?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17646 on: April 28, 2016, 07:44:29 pm »

It isn't, but summoning them all to cheese the Trespassers is fucking stupid, to be frank.
Really i's stupid not to cheese the reality eating monsters.
Also, Aiden should be in the jail bust list.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17647 on: April 29, 2016, 12:40:53 am »

How does this affect the Nix's Tear perk?
It....shouldn't? It s a plot, not a game mechanic.

Soulless beings could be there. Maybe. Iunno. Who gives a damn?

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17648 on: April 29, 2016, 12:46:22 am »

This would not be the FIRST time, nor will it be the last that my skills somehow sequence break and have to be ignored to keep the plot on the rails, it is better to make absolutely sure beforehand, instead of assuming and being wrong.  A bit meta, I know, but it saves everyone involved a lot of heartache.

Besides, Nix's Tear specifically states stuff to do with souls, so I would be like 0-999 in terms of failed skills if I ignored my own flavor.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17649 on: April 29, 2016, 12:49:38 am »

Shouldn't be an issue. The Perk saves possessed beings from assimilation and oblivion, so it probably won't just be at risk of ripping souls out of the afterlife.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17650 on: April 29, 2016, 12:52:05 am »

Well, the method is that it extracts the essence of the possessor being, like an emergency escape pod, since exorcising the trespassers can fail. The essence grows into a full soul, soulless beings are by definition lacking that essence.

It takes the spirit out of the caustic body, and uses part of Dackly's soul to let it grow back to full size and hopefully recover anything that was lost.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17651 on: April 29, 2016, 01:08:11 am »

Also, it's Nyx, not Nix.

On a different note, I checked Dackly's sheet and for some reason Snakebutt stands out as an interesting choice of words to me.
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« Reply #17652 on: April 29, 2016, 01:10:05 am »

My bad, I keep doing that.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17653 on: April 29, 2016, 01:20:32 am »

My bad, I keep doing that.

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and too bad, all glory to the snakebutt.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #17654 on: April 29, 2016, 01:27:36 am »

praise snakebutt
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