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Author Topic: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1972 Design  (Read 9301 times)

Happerry

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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2015, 12:28:22 am »

If so, we should go revise the MRAAMs to fix the bulky and hard to maneuver issues.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2015, 01:18:24 am »

Yeah I second that. My suggestion for revision: we want to achieve thrust vectoring for the Type 500, allowing greater maneuverability. This can be achieved most simply by installing a liquid injection system on the exhaust. Does that sound workable?
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« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2015, 02:20:11 am »

Yeah I second that. My suggestion for revision: we want to achieve thrust vectoring for the Type 500, allowing greater maneuverability. This can be achieved most simply by installing a liquid injection system on the exhaust. Does that sound workable?
Well, nothing comes out of my vast stores of ignorance to tell me it wouldn't be workable. Next turn then? I want to fix the missiles up this turn.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2015, 02:23:20 am »

We have two kinds of missiles. My suggestion was a revision for the fighter jet ones. Did you want to to revise our new Type 700s?
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« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2015, 04:28:47 am »

We have two kinds of missiles. My suggestion was a revision for the fighter jet ones. Did you want to to revise our new Type 700s?
No, I just got totally confused and was under the impression you were talking about the fighter, not the missile, somehow.

If we can fit that upgrade in with the anti bulkiness and bad at maneuvering issues revision I'm all for it.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2015, 07:30:18 am »

Yeah my suggestion should be a fix for maneuverability of the fighter missiles: the liquid feeds onto a given side of the missile exhaust which 'vectors' the thrust in the desired direction. That's basically thrust vectoring. This is more elegant than just sticking more fins on it. The bulkiness shouldn't matter if they can now be shot where we want them to (i.e. at enemy planes as they try and climb away).

If we can revise more than one aspect of the design at a time, then we can try and streamline the missile some more to remove some of the excess bulk. We could do this by  making the rocket longer but thinner (and adjusting the launching ports on the plane it's shot from accordingly).
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2015, 10:14:11 am »

 I still think we should revise our fighter. Unless we plan on designing a new one?
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2015, 10:20:09 am »

On the other hand, it seems better to first fix the weaponry, and then build a new fighter.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Design
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2015, 12:18:39 pm »

Our current fighters should be technically superior with the updated missile targeting. We could reinforce the chassis so that the planes are less prone to disintegrating at high speeds, then the enemies planes would have a harder time escaping.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Revision
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2015, 12:51:50 pm »

If we can revise more than one aspect of the design at a time-
I'll let you know if you're stretching things too much.

And yeah, you still have your revision.
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« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2015, 03:20:43 pm »

I propose that we make it so our fighters, you know can go to full speed without ripping apart?
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Revision
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2015, 11:39:14 pm »

I propose that we make it so our fighters, you know can go to full speed without ripping apart?
Our fighters are already better then theirs in the dogfight. This is basically unneeded except for maybe allowing better ground attacks, and I'm doubtful it'd help in that. The issue with ground attacks is that our ground attack missile is horribly outranged by their SAMs, and speed won't help that issue.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Revision
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2015, 03:17:35 am »

Maybe we should revise our ground attack missile then. Really, it's target is beneath it, it should have no problems gliding towards it.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Revision
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2015, 05:12:12 am »

Oh yeah I just reread and realised we have three missiles and that's the worst of them. Revision suggestion then is:

Install a ramjet on the Type 600 ARM so it can be fired at high speed from greater distances. Redesign the radar equipment, taking advantage of our engineers latest advances in electronics to downsize and more tightly pack the components.
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Re: Stellar Arms Race, USAA: 1971 Revision
« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2015, 05:22:19 am »

I'm not sure a ramjet is a great idea. I mean, it's supposed to attack ground targets, it doesn't need to be fast to do that.

Actually, nevermind, ramjet is fine.
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