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[Ghazkull]

i knew it that infantry armor was completely useless...

[Sensei]

i knew it that infantry armor was completely useless...

That's not true, it actually helped. However, it being Very Expensive is the main issue.

[evilcherry]

i knew it that infantry armor was completely useless...

That's not true, it actually helped. However, it being Very Expensive is the main issue.

Sensei how much time do you have until start of semester? depending on things I'd like to end this game properly rather than being a bimonthly affair.

[evilcherry]

Back to the game...

Offers MK-47A under the label Gewehr 34A
bumblebee as Naval Gun
Designs IFV or light tank.

- Tracked
- 3 inch AT howitzer using Hi-lo pressure principle
- capacity for two fireteams

[Ghazkull]

hmpf.

Radar won't help us right now...


Sticky Bomb
Quite simply an composite B or tnt charge put in a sock and smeared in tar to stick to enemy tanks. Simple, cheap and effective.


evilcheery quite honestly we have no ore anymore, we have a dearth of resources in general and thus vehicles have become pretty much superfluous for us, we need infantry weapons and somethign for our anti-air use.
Anti-Tank guns, anti-infantry weapons, cheaper armor and radars is what we need until we push back the arstotzkans at least far enough back for us to restart productions on vehicles at a reasonable level.

[Kashyyk]

Ok, revision is to cheapen that armour. If we get it to cheap that'd be ludicrously effective. but nigh impossible. Expensive would still be really good, as they are almost immune to small arms fire.

Design-wise, we need to deal with those new tanks. My suggestion is a self propelled tank destroyer.

T2b: Hunter
Based off of the Breaker chassis, this mounts an enlarged cannon in a fixed casemate (to give it some lateral/elevational movement). This cannon is specifically designed for high range and high penetration, and as such comes with improved, cheap optics and a radio. The armour is reduced to autocannon-proof on all sides except the front which is increased to heavy. This should be a pretty easy design, and as such we should be able cheapen the optics at the same time.

Next, we need something to take back the mountains, otherwise we have definitively lost. Thankfully we have two design phases. Specifically, we should go for something to improve our snipers. This will reverse the sniper war in our favour (helping in the desert as well) and we'll be able to take out their rpg troopers, which will allow our vehicles to mow down everything else.

[Devastator]

(I wonder what would have happened if we went with grenade launcher/cheaper tanks..  No point, as I recommended them, guaranteeing that neither of them would go through.)

I don't know about that design Kashyyk, that looks like it'll be NE at the minimum, probably costing 5 ore 3 oil, if not more.  Anti-tank mines would deal with the enemy tanks, and we could actually build them.

[Taricus]

Well, we have two designs this turn. And our main problem is the Arstotzkan snipers in the mountains. A proper sniper rifle there should help deal with them. We push them back in the mountains, we shouldn't have an ore problem.

[Baffler]

Offers MK-47A under the label Gewehr 34A
bumblebee as Naval Gun

+1.


The Arstotzkans disrupting our ore supplies need to be dealt with too, and I agree that a sniper rifle is the best choice there. How's this work?

Osprey Marksman Rifle

A dedicated bolt-action sniper rifle chambering the same .30 round as the M1 service rifle, loaded from an 8-round en-bloc clip. It has an iron sight adjustable to 1 kilometer, and a rail mount for a telescopic sight. This sight has adjustment controls for focus, windage, and parallax. Magnification can be adjusted by turning a knob that moves an adjustment lens closer or farther from the eyepiece.

Someone could probably fit that scope onto an MK-47A if they really wanted too as well. That would be silly, but modularity is good.

[Taricus]

Alright, looking at the offers, it'll probably be better to offer up the destroyer for that rather than give the nazis anything. Since they're offering both an expense credit, and more importantly, the resources to BUILT it. That means we'll be back at 3 ore regardless of the outcome in the mountains. Just have no idea how long that'll last.

[evilcherry]

Alright, looking at the offers, it'll probably be better to offer up the destroyer for that rather than give the nazis anything. Since they're offering both an expense credit, and more importantly, the resources to BUILT it. That means we'll be back at 3 ore regardless of the outcome in the mountains. Just have no idea how long that'll last.

Why not both. Poor men can't be choosers. We'll be happy to stamp them with star and stripes, the hammer and sickle, or swastikas.

[Baffler]

Alright, looking at the offers, it'll probably be better to offer up the destroyer for that rather than give the nazis anything. Since they're offering both an expense credit, and more importantly, the resources to BUILT it. That means we'll be back at 3 ore regardless of the outcome in the mountains. Just have no idea how long that'll last.

Why not both. Poor men can't be choosers. We'll be happy to stamp them with star and stripes, the hammer and sickle, or swastikas.

Pretty much. Like it or not, we sorely need that nazi iron. We just can't associate too closely with them and we should be good.

[Taricus]

Fair enough. Though looking over that sniper rifle, the weapon itself isn't that good... Also, I think we might want to avoid any armoured vehicle designs for the time being, we just don't have the resources for them.

So, a counter-proposal!

M2 'Osprey' Rifle
A bolt-action rifle fed from a 10-round detachable box magazine built purely for long-range engagements, and able to do it well thanks to the improved scope. It has an iron sight adjustable to 1 kilometer, and a rail mount for a telescopic sight. This sight has adjustment controls for focus, windage, and parallax. Magnification can be adjusted by turning a knob that moves an adjustment lens closer or farther from the eyepiece. Also comes standard with an integral folding bipod to improve the weapon's stability and accuracy.

[Baffler]

M2 'Osprey' Rifle
A bolt-action rifle fed from a 10-round detachable box magazine built purely for long-range engagements, and able to do it well thanks to the improved scope. It has an iron sight adjustable to 1 kilometer, and a rail mount for a telescopic sight. This sight has adjustment controls for focus, windage, and parallax. Magnification can be adjusted by turning a knob that moves an adjustment lens closer or farther from the eyepiece. Also comes standard with an integral folding bipod to improve the weapon's stability and accuracy.

I'm alright with these changes, +1.

[Kashyyk]

Have we decided on the T2b Hunter and M2 Osprey as our designs? I'd make a vote list, but I'm on my phone atm.