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[Ukrainian Ranger]

+1 to radio. It is huge boost to coordination and to calling artillery and air strikes.

[Sensei]

AS-G27: Having previously made landmines and mortars, grenades are no problem for Arstotzkan engineers. The basic AS-G27 is is an oblong ball that fits comfortably in the hand, and when a ring is pulled, this starts a four-second fuze. The casing breaks into fragments when it explodes. The AS-G27I is incendiary, the AS-G27S deploys smoke. The AS-G27AT is cylinder shaped, with magnets on one end. It contains a hemispherical shaped charge. A soldier can penetrate medium armor with it, but they have to run right up to a tank to stick one on. The amount of chemicals needed for grenades gives them a cost of Oil 2. Each grenade weighs around a kilogram.

The "AS-IG27V1" is also available to your troops, but it's less effective than the G27I.

You got Basic Shaped Charges.

[Andres]

Assuming we use the Expense credit on our tanks and it reopens mobility in the Jungle, a radio would actually be useful when it comes to co-ordinating this new mobility advantage.

Revise radio.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[10ebbor10]

Radio

[Aseaheru]

Research radio, credit on tanks.

[Andres]

Expense credit on tanks. (We really need to give our men a cheap CQC weapon. They probably hate us for taking to so long to make one. )

Glory to Arstotzka.

[andrea]

in the interest of a quick revision

radio

undeniably useful, a general improvement in all fields. Not specific, but it works.

Also, we got shaped charges! now our anti tank reigns supreme! if only some design besides the grenade used it Still, at least in the jungle I can see that being used. Less in the mountains, depending on how close our soldiers can get. As in, any overhangs above their road?

credit on tanks

Andres, for what is worth, grenades ARE a CQC weapon. Just as long as the close quarters are SMG range and not sword range. We shall see their effectivenes

[QuakeIV]

Revise radio.

[Kot]

Spoiler: 1927 (click to show/hide)

Votes:
Winning design:
AS-G27 grenade family -

AS-G27: Having previously made landmines and mortars, grenades are no problem for Arstotzkan engineers. The basic AS-G27 is is an oblong ball that fits comfortably in the hand, and when a ring is pulled, this starts a four-second fuze. The casing breaks into fragments when it explodes. The AS-G27I is incendiary, the AS-G27S deploys smoke. The AS-G27AT is cylinder shaped, with magnets on one end. It contains a hemispherical shaped charge. A soldier can penetrate medium armor with it, but they have to run right up to a tank to stick one on. The amount of chemicals needed for grenades gives them a cost of Oil 2. Each grenade weighs around a kilogram.

The "AS-IG27V1" is also available to your troops, but it's less effective than the G27I.

You got Basic Shaped Charges.

Revision votes:
IP-R25 (Captured Moskurgian Model 3) - 7 (10ebbor10, Aseaheru, Ukrainian Ranger, Andres, andrea, QuakeIV, Kot)

Expense credit votes:
Turbocharger revision - 4 (andrea, Andres, Aseaheru, Kot)

Proposed Designs:
Grenades:
AS-G27 grenade family - Very simple design consisting of thin steel can filled with explosives and long wooden handle. Grenade is primed by pulling the pin sitting on top of the can. It can be thrown up to 30 meters thanks to it's design, or dismounted from the handle and used in bobby-traps. The basic one is designated AS-G27(C), which stands for concussive. Design also considers addition of fragmentation shield that can be put around the regular grenade, incendiary, smoke and anti-tank versions, marked (F), (I), (S) and (AT) respectively. Anti-tank version is noticeably bigger and heavier which makes it harder to use.
AS-IG27(V1) - OUR NEWEST AND MOST ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY! BRILLIANT SCIENCISTS OF ARSTOTZKAN MAN-PROPELLED WEAPONRY INSTITUTE PRESENT YOU THE AS-V1! IT IS A SPECIALLY DESIGNED (found in dumpster) GLASS BOTTLE FILLED WITH MOST POWERFUL INCENDIARY FUEL (100% Vodka, the one we use in our engines) HUMANITY EVER CREATED WITH SIMPLE AND EFFECTIVE DETONATION SYSTEM (old socks and matchbox)! YOU CAN USE IT TO KILL MOSKBURGIANS. OR THEIR TANKS. OR PLANES. GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA (this is a Molotov coctail for people unfamiliar with propaganda)!

Assault Rifles:
AR-AR27 - The AS-AR27 is an assault rifle meant to chamber the 7.76mm round. Its maximum cost is 3 Ore, including the use of aluminium.
AS-AR27(Mod) - The AS-AR27 is an assault rifle meant to chamber the  7.62 round. Its maximum cost is 3 Ore, including the use of aluminium.
AS-AR27(U) - Create full automatic rifle using new 6*36mm rounds. It should be easy to handle, not complex to produce, reliable, rugged weapon. Use aluminium for anything but barrel and fire mechanism (but 2 ore max).

Other AT weapons
AS-RR-AT27 - A rifled barrel designed to fire a 50mm shell and to be man portable. Use of aluminium allowed to make it lighter if possible. It is intended to act as an anti-tank weapon at least at medium range, therefore efforts are made into researching Anti tank shells.
AS-RG27 - A simple Shoot-through type rifle grenade. Impact detained with a choice of fragmentation and high explosive.

Man Portable Rocket Launchers
AS-RPG27 - Litle more than a pipe with a triggering mechanism, this reloadable device launches a 80mm rocket out of one end of the tube at armored vehicles. This rocket contains a new shaped charge warhead that is much better a penetrating armor than traditional HE warheads.
AS-RPG27(Mod) - The AS-RPG27 is a rocket launcher that fires 50mm rockets. It's a reloadable device that comes with shaped AT rockets and shrapnel rockets (tech gained from our landmines).
AS-MAT27 - A re-loadable, man-portable AT weapon that consists of a 80mm shaped charge propelled by a should fired spigot mortar. it should be able to generally hit a tank or armored vehicle at 100m with decent accuracy and has the option for HE warheads for direct-fire against infantry.
AS-RAT27 - AS-RAT27 is 88 mm calibre reusable multi-purpose rocket launcher. It consist of 2 meter long aluminium tube with simple ignition device. It's light enough to be carried by one man, even if it's quite unwieldy, it can also be mounted on small two whelled carriage for better accuracy, or even combined together and placed on vehicle or carriage for use as multiple rocket launcher system. Maximum range is around 750m. It utilizes Flare, HE, HEAT, and Incendiary rockets.

Rocket Artillery
AS-RA27(H) - 30-rail rocket launcher system mounted on a towed carriage or truck. Ammunition is 80mm wide and 2 meters long, with warhead weighting 3,5 kg, capable of being either incendiary, regular HE, or flare.
AS-R27 - Mobile, multiple rocket launcher system intended to provide heavy, mobile artillery support. It consist of a rack of 10 double rails on which 12 cm rockets are fixed. The system can be mounted on trains or used as fied artillery piece, but its main intended use is to be mounted on our truck.

Regular Artillery
AS-HA1927 - The HA1927 is a large, heavy 130mm artillery piece for long range, heavy bombardment mounted on a new 4 wheeled carraige that allows a wide traverse. It has hydropneumatic recoil and is deployed by cranked down 6 heavy supporting jacks to lift the wheels off the ground.
AS-HA1927(Mod) - The HA1927 is a large, heavy 130mm artillery piece for long range, heavy bombardment mounted on a new 4 wheeled carraige that allows a wide traverse. It has hydropneumatic recoil and is deployed by cranked down 6 heavy supporting jacks to lift the wheels off the ground.  Features our advanced new muzzle brakes.
Vehicles
AS-1926-ICFV-AL - A fast Armored personnel carrier, armed with our recently designed machine gun. Armored with spaced light aluminum armor  , and powered with a simplified fuel injection engine, it can carry a small squad of soldiers (including driver) to combat lines at appreciable speeds. Tracked for decent all terrain performance.

Planes:
AS-FI27 - AS-FI27 is a small, high wing monoplane 2-seater liason aircraft, capable of carrying another 4 people in cargo compartment. Only it's frame is built out of metal, the rest is made of cloth and wood. It uses 9 cylinder engine, similar to the one used in AS-DB-HF-23, but upgraded with lastest technology. It's only weapon is AS-1924 machine gun mounted behind crew cabin.The plane is capable of extremly short takeoff and landing, 60m and 20m respectively. The plane can be used as officer (spy) transport, air ambulance, light cargo delivery and battlefield reconnaissance, but suffers greatly from lack of radio.

Assorted ideas:
Rocket pistol.
More landmines.
Rifle grenades.
More ARs
More artillery.
Rocket artillery.
Sniper rifles.
Jungle boat
Flying boat bombers.
Handheld AT weapons (RPGs, AT Rifles).
Autogyros.
MAGNETIC MINES.

DINGDINGDING WE HAVE A WINNNER. We got all them grenades and even the molotov! I think our troops will call it Emilovich Cocktail though.
The AT grenade was crossbreed with the magnetic mine, which pleases me.
Glory! GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA!

[Andres]

Andres, for what is worth, grenades ARE a CQC weapon. Just as long as the close quarters are SMG range and not sword range. We shall see their effectivenes

They're only useful in a supporting role. What we lack is a main CQC weapon to equip our soldiers with.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Kot]

Andres, for what is worth, grenades ARE a CQC weapon. Just as long as the close quarters are SMG range and not sword range. We shall see their effectivenes

They're only useful in a supporting role. What we lack is a main CQC weapon to equip our soldiers with.

Glory to Arstotzka.

Take enough and they will become main weapon. Just imagine our glorious soldiers carrying bunches of those all over their uniforms and throwing them at everything, ALL the time.
EDIT: They could also use them at sword range, all they need to do is to not lose their fingers before pulling the pin. After all, they're dead anyway if enemy is at sword range, so they can at least try to die an glorious death.

[Funk]

Dammit i wanted motor bike squads to have RPG's to joust at tanks with.
Oh well we have need grenades for years and it should help counter there smg.

[Kot]

Dammit i wanted motor bike squads to have RPG's to joust at tanks with.
Oh well we have need grenades for years and it should help counter there smg.

They can now charge enemy tanks with magnetic anti-tank grenades for maximum glory.

[Aseaheru]

 Its still our SMG, remember? They stole it.

[VoidSlayer]

Revise Radios to make separate broadcasting and receiving units, put broadcasting units on the planes if it will not effect performance too much and equip soldiers and tanks with both.