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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 162259 times)

andrea

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1924 Production
« Reply #1350 on: August 04, 2015, 05:17:13 am »

we have our very fine petrol engines to use, we can add RHA with a revision if we fail to get it in the design. at most, even with 3 oil AND expensive fuel injection , it is going to turn out very expensive at most.

by the way, it seems they won the design credit. and today I have no time working on advertising. this will be an hard time.

I suggest advertising the motorbike.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1924 Production
« Reply #1351 on: August 04, 2015, 05:18:04 am »

We could do what they did, and design an entire tank, including new armor, a new gun and all that in one go.

I was thinking about that. I'm kinda split of whether to do that or not.....

you know what? Screw it. We did tanks first, so we know tanks best. Let's show them how to tank!

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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1924 Production
« Reply #1352 on: August 04, 2015, 05:19:12 am »

I would put turret and gun as higher priorities. RHA is easier to add in a revision.

and I vote for it

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« Reply #1353 on: August 04, 2015, 05:20:07 am »

Design the AS-RPG25.
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We did tanks first, so we know tanks best.
We did a steam powered tank. They made two petrol-powered, turreted tanks and revised each of them. As much as I hate to say it, they know tanks best. We know light vehicles, planes, and small arms better.

Glory to Arstotzka.

EDIT: Revision should be set for decreasing the Oil costs of our planes. Our DB will be cheap and our HF will become Expensive, possibly even cheap if we can simplify the fuel injection in the Revision.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1924 Production
« Reply #1354 on: August 04, 2015, 05:23:04 am »

RPG is way into the future. Not going to work, especially not after the fuzz with the recoilless rifle.
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« Reply #1355 on: August 04, 2015, 05:23:36 am »

Design the AS-RPG25.
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We did tanks first, so we know tanks best.
We did a steam powered tank. They made two petrol-powered, turreted tanks and revised each of them. As much as I hate to say it, they know tanks best. We know light vehicles, planes, and small arms better.

Glory to Arstotzka.

EDIT: Revision should be set for decreasing the Oil costs of our planes. Our DB will be cheap and our HF will become Expensive, possibly even cheap if we can simplify the fuel injection in the Revision.

I'm actually hoping by including a fuel injected engine in the tank, that it'll reduce the cost of fuel injection. Of course, we can revise fuel injection if need be in case that doesn't work :P
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1924 Production
« Reply #1356 on: August 04, 2015, 05:24:12 am »

I am not sure we can reduce oil cost in aircrafts while still keeping their high performance.

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« Reply #1357 on: August 04, 2015, 05:26:32 am »

I am not sure we can reduce oil cost in aircrafts while still keeping their high performance.
It allows for a higher-performance engine for the same fuel use. Therefore, if we keep the same engine output in our current planes but then use fuel injection, it should reduce oil costs.
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This fort really does sit on the event horizon of madness and catastrophe
No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

Andres

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« Reply #1358 on: August 04, 2015, 05:31:34 am »

RPG is way into the future. Not going to work, especially not after the fuzz with the recoilless rifle.
I just looked it up and yeah, RPGs weren't invented until the 40s, meaning we can't invent them until the 30s.

I'm actually hoping by including a fuel injected engine in the tank, that it'll reduce the cost of fuel injection. Of course, we can revise fuel injection if need be in case that doesn't work :P
Good point, there.

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Support, but it should use auto-loading technology that we got from our autocannons, thus only needing three men to operate. It is not turbocharged (less ambitious) but it does have a fuel-injected engine. From our experience with heavy trucks, it uses a diesel engine. A single AA-capable AC18 sits on the top of the tank. If the tank is decent enough at the end, include headlights in the front for use at night.

Glory to Arstotzka.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1924 Production
« Reply #1359 on: August 04, 2015, 05:31:49 am »

I would put turret and gun as higher priorities. RHA is easier to add in a revision.

and I vote for it

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« Reply #1360 on: August 04, 2015, 05:35:56 am »

...an autoloading 50mm? Really? Hell, 40mm is pushing it, and that would be expensive as fuck, so no. I'll give you that it needs a pintle mounted MG, but I'm not sure our AC18 is light enough for the job. Instead of an AC18, put a 1924 on top on a pintle mount for anti0infatry and AA purposes, as well as a coaxial MG if possible.)
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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« Reply #1361 on: August 04, 2015, 05:38:20 am »

The T-64 had an autoloader and its barrel was 125mm, so why not?
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« Reply #1362 on: August 04, 2015, 05:45:57 am »

The T-64 had an autoloader and its barrel was 125mm, so why not?

..You're talking about a tank from the fucking 1960s, and even wikipedia calls that feature revolutionary. For a tank from the 1960s. Plus, IIRC that autoloader was slower than simply manually loading the shell. Sure it let the omit a crew member, a very big consideration for a Soviet tank(what with their cramped crew quarters), but we don't really have space issues, so it's not needed.
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This fort really does sit on the event horizon of madness and catastrophe
No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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« Reply #1363 on: August 04, 2015, 05:48:05 am »

Fair enough. No autoloader then.
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« Reply #1364 on: August 04, 2015, 05:57:48 am »

Added a slight modification for a coaxial MG and another pintle-mounted for AA.

Edit:As for revision, assuming nothing goes wrong with the tank I had the idea of turning our armored cars into a specialist vehicle now that their effectiveness has dropped off. One idea I had was enlarging the chassis enough to allow a third crew member(as well as a fuel injected engine) so that we can mount a modified turret with our new AT gun(omitting the coaxial MG if need be). MOAR AT!

Or, we can enlarge it to fit a open-topped superstructure mounting a short-barreled version of our 80mm cannon to make a self-propelled gun. What do you guys think?(of course, if something fucks up on the tank, we will be fixing that!)
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This fort really does sit on the event horizon of madness and catastrophe
No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.
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