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[Krevsin]

Here's another thing people seem to be forgetting: These are not the only DLC that will come out for FO4. They are merely the first to be announced. So please, stop the pre-emptive chain rattling of "I bought the season pass for this?"

[Teneb]

Dead Money on the other hand, I only remember it because of how hard it sucked.

Am I the only person in these forums who actually likes Dead Money?

It was a complete genre-shift. It went from your standard Bethsoft RPG to something closer to survival horror (the horror is perhaps stretching it a bit, though). The three(/four) companions were actually interesting and the areas were well designed in a way that added quite a bit of tension. And if you were for whatever reason playing hardcorde (as I was when I first did it), you'll find out that the Sierra Madre is perhaps the only place in the game where it actually really works. You need to keep scrounging for chips to get food and equipment, being anywhere outside will constantly drain your health and ghost people and traps get terrifying when you only get healing over time.

[Krevsin]

I quite liked Dead Money. It was basically Bioshock done in New Vegas' engine with a fallout flair.

What I did not like were the missions in which you had companions with you. Because if they died, so did you and the AI in NV.... well, least said, the better.

[Glloyd]

I dunno, I just found Dead Money to be a boring slog. The setting didn't interest me and neither did the companions. I just wanted to get out of there and get on to Old World Blues. It was something I completely avoided when I did my second playthrough of NV.

[SOLDIER First]

I can attest that DM is a nightmare in Hardcore mode. All the Doctor's Bags I needed.....

The companions aren't too bad, though. Usually they only died if I messed up or got caught by a few goddamn firebombs.

[scriver]

I really liked Dead Money too. Companions were good, art was good, area design was good. A change of pace from the Nevada experience. Enemies that probably would have been scarier if they hadn't reminded me so much about the Shalebridge Cradle (which was much creepier).

In fact, the most interesting parts of OWB was the ones related to DM characters. Otherwise I found OWB to be mostly just a slot through boring, tedious enemies, gameplay-wise, with very little variation.

[Krevsin]

I mostly enjoyed OWB for its writing, wacky sense of humour and the zeerust turned up to 11. Gameplay-wise it was almost entirely fetchquesting through very difficult to traverse areas, especially on higher difficulties and with certain rebalance mods.

[MrWiggles]

I dont get folks being pissy over the DLC. Its never required to play the game. The game wont become unplayable because you don't have the DLC. If it doesn't appeal to you, then you probably shouldnt get it. If you already opted into season pass, then you were either dumb, or ignorant. Dumb if you were aware of Skyrim, FO3, DLC and for some reason surprise that FO4 DLC is similar. Ignorant if you bought into it, before knowing what the DLC were.

I'm not super happy with the price hike, but there is enough of a grace period to get it before the price hike that its not that bad. I find myself more curious why Bethesda went with upping the cost of the season pass, instead of opting to making a season 2 pass, which we've seen some games do.

[scriver]

I'm not super happy with the price hike, but there is enough of a grace period to get it before the price hike that its not that bad. I find myself more curious why Bethesda went with upping the cost of the season pass, instead of opting to making a season 2 pass, which we've seen some games do.

Because this way the can get a "get it before it gets more expensive!" rush of customers.

[Teneb]

Also, a season pass usually implies that it will contain all DLC, instead of just some (Borderlands 2 was a big offender here).

[Telgin]

I mostly enjoyed OWB for its writing, wacky sense of humour and the zeerust turned up to 11. Gameplay-wise it was almost entirely fetchquesting through very difficult to traverse areas, especially on higher difficulties and with certain rebalance mods.

I was starting to wonder if I was the only person who had problems with Old World Blues, but then I didn't really like it much at all.  Those difficult to traverse areas were just too irritating for me.  If I see another robot scorpion that can absorb 3 magazines of ammo from my most powerful weapons I'll scream.

Actually, that is probably the biggest problem I've had with the DLC of all of the Fallout games.  The combat difficulty is usually completely shot at high levels and it's very distracting for me.  I know it's a game and I'm supposed to be able to look past it in favor of story or setting, but I don't take kindly to mutant hillbillies that can readily shoot through power armor with shotguns, unarmored tribals that can absorb an entire magazine of bullets before dying or unending trickles of robot scorpions that are even worse bullet sponges and, of course, can punch / sting / whatever the heck they did right through power armor.

At least I think I had power armor on then.  I know half of the DLCs took your stuff away to try to maintain game balance, but then cranked enemy HP and damage up to 11 anyway.

[BigD145]

I'm not super happy with the price hike, but there is enough of a grace period to get it before the price hike that its not that bad. I find myself more curious why Bethesda went with upping the cost of the season pass, instead of opting to making a season 2 pass, which we've seen some games do.

Because this way the can get a "get it before it gets more expensive!" rush of customers.

"Not enough people are buying our season pass. Let's force them with a price hike and planned content valued at less than the price hike."

Don't preorder video games.

[ZebioLizard2]

Don't buy season passes without knowing what's coming up either, both have become rather prevalent lately (Specially those awful companies that produce multiple season passes)

[Bauglir]

The game wont become unplayable because you don't have the DLC.

Bethesda games are possibly the one situation where that's not a good argument. Many mods will depend on DLC, especially large overhauls whose creators don't want to bother maintaining multiple compatibility options. Given that the modding options are one of the biggest draws, that's kind of a big deal.

[Krevsin]

The game wont become unplayable because you don't have the DLC.

Bethesda games are possibly the one situation where that's not a good argument. Many mods will depend on DLC, especially large overhauls whose creators don't want to bother maintaining multiple compatibility options. Given that the modding options are one of the biggest draws, that's kind of a big deal.

So wait for the DLC packs to come out and get them when they're on sale. And they most definitely will be on sale.