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[GiglameshDespair]

Maybe you got brain damage in the 200 years in cryo or whatever it was in the Vault.
But just grunting at people would probably be seen as politically incorrect these days.

[Aseaheru]

 So, I decided to see what Bay12 was saying about this thing, and one of the first things I see is someone thinking Boston was DC, Otis Airforce Base called Camp Edwards, and various weird images. Congrats everyone, you have fulfilled the required levels of "what?!".

Time to read the rest of the thread... Wish me luck.

[Virtz]

This opens up the question; if speech/SPECIAL stats affect conversations still, did they record low intelligence lines for the PC? I hope so much that they did. In Fallout 2, a low intelligence run was hilarious. That conversation with Torr, who is also lacking in the brains department, was hilariously enlightening.

As far as I remember, they didn't even do that for FO3, so doubtful. New Vegas did it, but if memory serves, that didn't have different responses from NPCs like it did in FO1 and 2. It was just rewritten dialogue choices for the player.

[AoshimaMichio]

This opens up the question; if speech/SPECIAL stats affect conversations still, did they record low intelligence lines for the PC? I hope so much that they did. In Fallout 2, a low intelligence run was hilarious. That conversation with Torr, who is also lacking in the brains department, was hilariously enlightening.

As far as I remember, they didn't even do that for FO3, so doubtful. New Vegas did it, but if memory serves, that didn't have different responses from NPCs like it did in FO1 and 2. It was just rewritten dialogue choices for the player.

I remember only one location where low intelligence actually mattered. The solar power place, whatever it was called. That is the only place where I remember seeing low int dialogue option.

[Teneb]

This opens up the question; if speech/SPECIAL stats affect conversations still, did they record low intelligence lines for the PC? I hope so much that they did. In Fallout 2, a low intelligence run was hilarious. That conversation with Torr, who is also lacking in the brains department, was hilariously enlightening.

As far as I remember, they didn't even do that for FO3, so doubtful. New Vegas did it, but if memory serves, that didn't have different responses from NPCs like it did in FO1 and 2. It was just rewritten dialogue choices for the player.

I remember only one location where low intelligence actually mattered. The solar power place, whatever it was called. That is the only place where I remember seeing low int dialogue option.

In New Vegas? There are a few others. If you are an imbecile or have high luck, you can correctly guess the password ("ICE CREAM!") to disable the security systems in the REPCON (was it REPCON?) museum. A ranger near Nelson will also have special dialogue if you are stupid. I guess there may be a few more around and that obisidian planned to do a lot of them but the deadline prevented it. The solar power plant quest with low intelligence has likely the best dialogue in the game.

[Guardian G.I.]

This opens up the question; if speech/SPECIAL stats affect conversations still, did they record low intelligence lines for the PC? I hope so much that they did. In Fallout 2, a low intelligence run was hilarious. That conversation with Torr, who is also lacking in the brains department, was hilariously enlightening.

As far as I remember, they didn't even do that for FO3, so doubtful. New Vegas did it, but if memory serves, that didn't have different responses from NPCs like it did in FO1 and 2. It was just rewritten dialogue choices for the player.

I remember only one location where low intelligence actually mattered. The solar power place, whatever it was called. That is the only place where I remember seeing low int dialogue option.

If you have low INT, you'll get a discount on Intelligence Implants at the New Vegas Medical Clinic, and you can make Arcade Gannon pity you and become your companion.

[JimboM12]

It's not about whether it affects the game or not.....its about whether my PC says "ME VAULT PERSON. YOU GIVE ICE CREAM." (asking for stimpacks somehow) complete with voice over.
...Nah, they wouldn't go so far as to voice a mentally handicapped PC, but I bet the nearest thing they would voice is like, a surfer or something.
"Yeah, um, i need those red things that like, heal people? Like, they're in this tube thing with a needle? Yeah, that thing. I'll give you ummmmmm, I think like, 200 caps per is a good trade, right? It is? Hell yeah, burah."
or
*Perform a serious operation on this man's heart* [Doctor skill 90] OR [Int 2] AND [Luck 10]: "You saved my father's life!" "Um, yeah bruah, I just kinda reached around in there and found like, a dark red thing? Yeah."

Wait. You pulled out his heart and somehow saved this mans life.

[Iceblaster]

...

I never knew how much I needed that. Yes. Please

[Sensei]

I remember in the first Fallout, one of the climactic bosses you fight is a mutated mass of flesh controlling a vault overseer's chair. Normally, before fighting, a conversation starts- you can duel with words for a while, there's the usual bad guy schtick about why you should totally join the mutant hivemind, or whatever. I'm reasonably sure every conversation path ends in fighting. Anyway, I was having a really hard time fighting this thing, I died a few times, and eventually realized I had a bunch of chems I could use. One of them I think was a Buffout, complete with -2 Int penalty. After consuming all of my drugs, I went forward to fight the climactic enemy. The dialogue initiated, with exactly one conversation option:

"Ugg-lee!"

That made my day.

[ShoesandHats]

You can avoid fighting the Master by telling him that his mutants are sterile, assuming you've gotten that piece of information. You might need to pass a charisma/speech check, though, I'm not sure.

[miauw62]

I think you can also join him and become a super mutant, actually.

[itisnotlogical]

I think you can also join him and become a super mutant, actually.

You get offered that earlier, I believe it's the Lieutenant. I don't think the Master makes a second offer after that.

Man, Fallout 1 still has the best storytelling of any RPG IMHO. Some RPGs get so up themselves with Important Messages^tm that it's easy to forget how effective the simple moments are (speaking about the intro and outro especially).

Also, I don't know why this thought just came to me, but FO1 and 2 are the last games in a long time that felt American-made to me. Even big-budget American games set primarily in America and featuring patriotic themes (Modern Warfare, new Splinter Cell, new Rainbow Six, etc.) feel like corporate mass-produced games as opposed to a labor of love by an American development team. It's almost like if you were to compare classic American literature to a classic novel from another country; you can tell the difference even without context. I dunno what I'm rambling on about, it sounded more profound in my head

[JimboM12]

I think you can also join him and become a super mutant, actually.

You get offered that earlier, I believe it's the Lieutenant. I don't think the Master makes a second offer after that.

Man, Fallout 1 still has the best storytelling of any RPG IMHO. Some RPGs get so up themselves with Important Messages^tm that it's easy to forget how effective the simple moments are (speaking about the intro and outro especially).

Also, I don't know why this thought just came to me, but FO1 and 2 are the last games in a long time that felt American-made to me. Even big-budget American games set primarily in America and featuring patriotic themes (Modern Warfare, new Splinter Cell, new Rainbow Six, etc.) feel like corporate mass-produced games as opposed to a labor of love by an American development team. It's almost like if you were to compare classic American literature to a classic novel from another country; you can tell the difference even without context. I dunno what I'm rambling on about, it sounded more profound in my head

This is why most EA games are kinda falling flat to me (alongside the proliferation of DLC marketing they've been working at). I prefer obvious labor of love projects (mostly indie titles these days), like Baldur's Gate back in the day and Prison Architect and Dwarf Fortress and Don't Starve and etc. Games that you make cuz you'd find them fun yourself or you were a fan of D&D or something.

Back to the main reason for this thread; I wonder if they're going to delve a bit deeper into the darker parts of the post-apocalyptia, such as slavery and prostitution, drug trafficking and raiding innocent villages for slaves/loot. Fallout 2/3/New Vegas all the ability to go evil and sate those darker urges. Being top dog around Caesars Legion and feeling the respect you've earned and basically basking in all your horrid deeds felt damn good. Fallout 2 and 3 had the choice to go slaver and help turn people into property and getting respected for it. I wonder if we get to make our own little bandit/slaver fort out in the wastes and have the local slavers come to show of their newly acquired goods and give you the option of purchasing them to put to work growing food/drugs for your criminal empire.

Edit: forgot to mention all the other horrid shit we could force those poor souls to do, like build a whorehouse and staff it with your weekly raids worth of girls.

[Andres]

Edit: forgot to mention all the other horrid shit we could force those poor souls to do, like build a whorehouse and staff it with your weekly raids worth of girls.

I'm almost certain this would make the game illegal in several different countries.

[JimboM12]

Edit: forgot to mention all the other horrid shit we could force those poor souls to do, like build a whorehouse and staff it with your weekly raids worth of girls.

I'm almost certain this would make the game illegal in several different countries.

Yeah, you're right. A lotta games have the option to sell people into slavery and stuff, but actually staffing whorehouses with them might be too far. Still, I do want the ability to buy slaves during an evil run.