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[Bohandas]

About trapfinding: since trapfinding is both the ability to detect and disable traps of DC 20+, I think it would be mire fitting to the class theme if it only got the finding half of it.

Yeah. I was considering that but wasn't sure. Might even limit it further to only finding magical traps.

[scriver]

All in all I fund the idea of a "practical diviner" type of class mire interesting the more I think about it, particularly for the typical adventurer profession.

[Bohandas]

I'm not seeing what this character does in combat. How would this class contribute at level 5 vs. a Troll? At level 10 vs. a Fire Giant?

At level 10 they have a few buffs and debuffs. Overall though they're probably crap in combat, at least compared to most other casters. They'd possibly be better as a villain or quest-giver.

Their crappiness in offense and suboptimality in combat support also helps counterbalance their various special abilities and stuff which were mentioned before as being unusually numerous.

[Flying Dice]

It's like the living definition of the fifth wheel. Definitely fits better as a class for NPCs.

You might be better off trying to back-port the Oracle from PF with a selection of the more appropriate mysteries (Lore, Occult, &c.).

[Bohandas]

How do you think they would fare against an adept or magewright of equal level? If they were significantly better that's arguably the test of being powerful enouh to be a pc class.

[Flying Dice]

I meant more in the sense of party role. What role do you see them filling, and why would someone take this class instead of flavoring their character in a similar way while taking another class? It looks like a grab-bag of utility. I described it as an NPC class not because of how powerful it is, but because of what it does: it's the sort of class where you don't want a player (unless you have a player who especially wants to play something in this niche), you want someone you can strap to the BSF's back and point at problems, in the same way that a Healer is basically a living wand.

e: That's not to say that I don't like the concept, it's just that right now it looks like a list of "how many utilities can I fit into one class" and not much else.

[Jimmy]

My level 9 Pathfinder Wizard got a rod of lesser maximize, and I've decided the most horrible thing I can do with it is to learn Explosive Runes. Prep 3 pieces of paper per day with it during downtime, then when we go adventuring use Summon Monster III to summon 3 small air elementals using maximized 1d3 Summon Monster II. Give them the notes and tell them to go over to the enemy and read them. Optionally order them to scream "Death to America!" while they do so.

[Neonivek]

My level 9 Pathfinder Wizard got a rod of lesser maximize, and I've decided the most horrible thing I can do with it is to learn Explosive Runes. Prep 3 pieces of paper per day with it during downtime, then when we go adventuring use Summon Monster III to summon 3 small air elementals using maximized 1d3 Summon Monster II. Give them the notes and tell them to go over to the enemy and read them. Optionally order them to scream "Death to America!" while they do so.

Now if you were a Fire Sorcerer you would be much more effective

[NullForceOmega]

Feeling some real burnout with my campaign, the ideas are there, but the group is stumbling along.  Not sure what to do to help improve focus, might just be stress, on one or both ends.

[Bohandas]

Can you give any more detail?

[NullForceOmega]

Well, I feel a bit unfocused, but really we seem to have hit a lull in the game that combined with the general stresses of daily life seem to be making the game drag pretty hard.

[BlackFlyme]

Gestalted Mythic campaign: For when only half the group shows up on game night and you feel that game-balance, that fickle, imprecise whore, shouldn't just be murdered horrifically, but should suffer horribly the whole damn way through.

My character was rather half-assed. I've never thought up a gestalt concept before. Not one that I would actually be able to play without damn near all 18s across the attribute board. Kineticist/Barbarian am I. A man wrapped in bandages, with what little skin that is shown being covered in burns, because Pyro-Kineticist. And no real name, with a featureless white mask to hide his face. 'Cuz I'm lazy and unimaginative. Also because a Battle Mask gives an Intimidate bonus, to offset the fact that my Charisma isn't great. The others think think his name is supposed to be racist, so I won't repeat it. Didn't mean it the way they took it.

There's also a Paladin/Fighter who didn't have the stat spread to be a Paladin/Monk, a Magus/Oracle whose backstory is that he coasts by through sheer luck, despite his stupidity, and a Magus/Bloodrager who really wanted to be a half-dragon.

[Rolan7]

My ex-DM is starting a new campaign, with an... Interesting rule:
At every level you pick two classes, and get all the best parts of each.
IE, if you pick wizard and fighter, you get the bonus feats and d10 and good fort, also you advance a full level in spellcasting and your familiar.

I won't be playing, but I'm helping my brother build his character.
And yes, the first thing I said once I understood the rules was to choose fighter/barbarian/soulknife plus cleric/wizard.  If he wanted to optimize.

Since he was leaning towards Soulknife+barbarian...
Addendum:  It's a "mundane" setting, in that the only magic is psionic.  No extraordinary or supernatural abilities will function unless they're psionic.

Just curious as to what people make of the mechanics.  Personally, I'm a little skeptical...  Though the outcome depends on the players, and the DM is great.

[Jimmy]

Addendum:  It's a "mundane" setting, in that the only magic is psionic.  No extraordinary or supernatural abilities will function unless they're psionic.

Just curious as to what people make of the mechanics.  Personally, I'm a little skeptical...  Though the outcome depends on the players, and the DM is great.

If the only abilities that function in the setting are psionic abilities, that would mean that Barbarians can't rage, since it's an (Ex) ability. Monks can't use Flurry of Blows for the same reason. Rangers can't use Favored Enemy. Druids can't use Wild Shape or gain an Animal Companion. Might want to clarify exactly what isn't allowed from the class ability lists before you pick your two classes. Probably best to go Fighter/Psion and prestige out after level 5 using all the free bonus feats if he's cutting so much from the class lists.

Otherwise, I'd love to see him go Barbarian/Druid. Raging Dire Bear for the win.

[Kadzar]

Is there even a reason for the (Ex) ability tag to exist, from a rules perspective? Because things like weapon proficiency and a rogue's sneak attack and even the monk's perfect self feature don't have any tags associated with them (at least according to the SRD). Is there a point to this other than pointing out that they're cool emphasizing that they can't be dispelled and still work in antimagic fields (just like armor proficiency)? Is there anything elsewhere in the core rules or in a later supplement that actually builds on or references (Ex) abilities in any way?