I counterclaim as
Town Sexton. I have left clues as to my identity earlier, and I'm getting spruce's stuff (mainly his body to watch over) when he dies.
I can't counter your claim that I haven't been doing my job hunting properly; I've always been bad at doing this genuinely instead of making up shit like I do as scum. However, I can counter individual points.
If you really thought Cheesecake was scum, why didn't you vote for him when you had the chance? You were more than willing to flaunt the fact that you were the first to 'expose' him, but you were not willing to actually vote for him when the time came along.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt; he is a
novice after all. I was not flaunting that fact. I was pointing out that I felt bad for creating "cultgate 2015" as somebody so eloquently put it, and marking him as not completely innocent yet. Yes, I guess you could call it exposing, but it was not my intention to create an out-of-control wagon. Hence why I voted someone else; someone who at the time I found more suspicious anyways.
I'll agree with you that he hasn't stuck to doing what he said he was going to do. His word is Investigation, which is ironic considering his lack of question players. However, his 'bandwagon' vote also broke a tie between myself and Teneb. I'm fairly certain at that point he simply wanted to prevent a no-lynch and saw myself as less scummy than him.
Secondly, this is the first time you've mentioned his name as a suspect of yours, which leaves me inclined to think that you're still looking for an easy lynch. Since the other players have been relatively productive and/or accounted for, you decided to place your suspicions on the 'obvious' target in order appear productive.
Easy lynch? hardly. I don't see anyone else voting for Peradon. You also noticed I said "wagons", plural? His tiebreaking vote wasn't the only wagon he joined. He was also on Cheesecake much of the time. I'll give you the second wagon vote did prevent a no-lynch. But he could easily have voted you instead, and this entire day would be different.
Also, you asking me for reads? This may be a weak point, but your request for reads forced me to go over everything again because several players had fallen off of my radar and reevaluate
everything. My reads list? Effectively "Flabort has replaced in for Flabort". New suspects, including Peradon who yes I hadn't even considered before. I hadn't even engaged TDS or roo before my reads list, but you see how I evaluated them, too? Fresh eyes, friend.
Hehe. I think you know that your case against him is gone. Completely. Utterly. Gone. Now you're just trying to save face, since you had assumed that OSG would have made an easy lynch. But holding on to suspicions of someone who has already been marked as Town isn't sensible, especially after I had "done out" OSG. On the errant chance of an OSG wagon, you still want to be ready to off him. Which doesn't make a lick of sense to any sensibly minded Townie.
Maybe I just don't know when to give up. It's won me several scum games and lost me a fair number of town. I have one town win under my belt because I was
saved by somebody else.
So why would I try to save face? I
know I look suspicious as hell, at
least as painted by scum if not by everyone else. It's a part of my being towny. My only course of action then is to do my best to find the scum as quickly as possible before I lose. It's still possible for OSG to have a jailor type role and be scum; most potential town roles can be part of the Cult scum team. It would also make sense for that to be a fire-and-forget power where he "draws a name out of a hat" like he said. I don't care that you confirmed him or that I rated you as potentially a member of the town. You could even be buddies, or you could be misguided. I know I've been misguided by scum leading me around as town before (see also: my only town win).
I still don't see the town motivation in revealing OSG's role. if he's town, of course he'll be the first guy killed by scum now. If he's scum, he'll survive.
I know that now that I've marked OSG as a suspect, though, and you have marked him as town, there is no chance in HELL that he'll be lynched. Whether or not he's scum, nobody will trust a word I say and refuse to lynch anybody I mark as a target; it's the pattern of things; when I am town, my suspects are never lynched, or on the off chance they are it happens before I have a chance to notice and rescind my position; in both those cases, the scum survive. So I know the chance of a wagon on OSG is slim. I agree with you there. and I WILL jump on it. My motivation for considering him a suspect, though, is completely not what you said.
But this last one is my favorite. Because it involves me, and I love talking about me.
Buddying:
Self-Explanatory. The first two quoted examples also fall into the realm of Soft-Hunting, but that is not the expressed focus of this section. Read on.
Ooh. Heheh. I knew I should have rated you lower; but I did leave the obvious bait in my reads, I guess. This is where you inevitably mess up.
This illustrates a most wonderful growth of thought that I feel is very, very important. Day 1, there are exceptionally subtle undertones that you wanted me to be grilled into oblivion. Day 1 Birdy is 'lucky' that he's not the one in the spotlight. You're suspicious of me, but unwilling to outright target me as yet. Fine.
It's true. you were lucky to not be in the spotlight. Like I said, everyone gets their turn. Right now it's mine. Wishing for you to be "grilled into oblivion"? No. I'm just stating that inevitably you're going to do something that SOMEBODY finds suspicious, or if that doesn't happen it will be because you've already been nightkilled. It's a fact of mafia, not any intent of mine.
What do you think of this, then, that it's my desire for you to be grilled that way now?Come Day 2 however, that suspicion is completely gone. Suddenly, my activity Day 1 seems to make sense, with my role claim and subsequent release of OSG's role being 'one suspicious thing out of a lot of positive posts". Now I'm, 'Mildly Town'. It's hilariously false, since a lot my early posts are soft, meaningless questions and I held my vote on Epenguin for what was admittedly too long. Hah! You're buttering this old horse up and whispering sweet nothings into my ear as you ship me off to the glue factory.
Once again, fresh eyes from making a reads list. And as I said earlier, my suspicion over people who open with just one question is a pet peeve, NOT anything relative to actually playing the game of mafia. I have to put aside my personal grudges, peeves, and annoyances, and stick to the game. Isn't that the same as your new detachment strategy?
And it wasn't me who said "A lot of positive posts",
you're just letting a little encouragement go to your head. Not every point I made about every poster applies to every post they made. If it had only been the one mistake only, I may have overlooked it entirely and just said "Definitely town, most positively". You yourself pointed out apathy on moving your vote from Epenguin, but I'd also like to point out that you requested a prod later, too, and you yourself pointed out your soft questions. They were still questions, and while you didn't ask a whole lot of them and many of them were callbacks to previous questions, it's a good thing to ask for clarification, a good thing to pursue people who refuse to answer you no matter how trivial the question. So some good, some areas that could use improving. Obviously while combing through your posts for the sake of forming a read on you, I got a little ticked off that most of your questions all led back to that first one that annoyed me personally, but in order to play the game I ignored my annoyance at that.
You know my claim is true, and as such, you know that a sudden case against me would be suspicious. So you want to do the exact opposite of conveying suspicion. Buddying.
I can't confirm your claim one way or the other right now. Maybe in the morning after you've res'd someone I can. Your claim might be true, and if it is that's great! But everyone wants to claim town. Except for jesters, but I don't think there are any in Supernatural. And I don't give a shit as to whether a sudden case against somebody who I previously had no case against looks suspicious. I'm gonna look suspicious no matter what I do, I may as well pursue anything that catches my interest. Including you if I have to.
My turn.Please reply to all orange stuff above.
5) Have you picked a word for Roo or forced one out of him yet?
6) Do you consider Roo suspicious? If so, why haven't you pursued a case on him yet?
7) Are you going to take the bait in question 6?
You mentioned "For now". What could you
possibly have that's
still hidden up your sleeve? I'd have though you'd have exhausted
everything you can if you were a towny.
9) Who else do you suspect?
10) What happened to "Innefectual town"? I'd like to point out that in YOUR reads list you had me listed as town. Why the sudden change of heart?
11) Why didn't YOU vote for your suspect when you posted your reads, since you're so confused by my not voting for cheesecake?
12) Revise your reads list, please.