Challenge for people who believe non-comicbook Superman wins:Post a youtube video of any non-comic book source of Superman doing anything you believe shows Superman to be in a league above Goku. Include the name of the source material.
The time travel and memory wiping sequences from the 70s movies are the only ones I'm aware of. Every other depiction I'm aware of shows him at best being comparable to rough early to middle Z characters.
Even the infamous
World of Cardboard Speech fight scene against Doomsday:
"That man won't quit as long as he can still draw a breath. None of my teammates will. Me? I've got a different problem. I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something, to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment, or someone could die. But you can take it, can't you, big man? What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose and show you just how powerful I really am."— Superman, Justice League Unlimited.
I mean...yes, it's a respectable feat. But again, we're talking early to middle Z material here. Hits like that are not uncommon in Dragonball. But when they happen in Dragonball, the people who take them don't go down after two hits like Doomsday did. They get back up and keep fighting for 5 more episodes.
In fact, here's Goku
as a kid tanking an attack of similar magnitudek. Punched into the ground to make a crater. He gets up and keeps fighting. For another ten minutues,and then
tanks an even bigger hit with a much bigger crater...and gets up again and fly/punches his entire body through his opponent's chest, killing him.
Somebody want to do some analysis and math on the size of that second crater? Looks to me like this is Goku at like ten years old tanking bigger hits that Superman is doing when he "cuts loose to show you how powerful he is."
As an adult,
attacks capable of destroying planets are common.
* Here is
Vegeta destroying a planet * Here is
Frieza destroying a planet * Here's
Buu destroying a couple planets * Here's
Vegeta's father destroying planets So now that we've seen that it's done...fairly often, we can probably reasonably suggest that when somebody in Dragonball
says they're going to blow up a planet, or people say that an attack would have destroyed a planet if it hadn't been stopped...it's not just hyperbole. They probably really are able to do it. So:
* Here is Goku during the Cell Saga releasing an attack
everybody watching thinks is enough to destroy the earth. Of course,being the good guy he doesn't actually destroy the planet. He teleports behind his opponent and releases it through him instead of down into the planet. Point being, it's reasonably certain that Goku is capable of planet busting as of Cell Saga.
* And here is about 100 episode prior,
repelling a planet busterSo Goku can both generate and repel planet-busting attacks...as of Cell Saga at the latest.
Now go watch Superman
cutting loose and showing how powerful he is and explain to me
why you think he can beat Goku?