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[Angle]

I tested it on my roommates windows computer, and apparently the java command I'm using doesn't always work on windows? It's weird. When I have use of a windows computer I'm going to do some more thorough testing, and see if I can figure out why.

[Antsan]

Sorry for the delayed non-answer. My laptop got re-installed and I hadn't access to my KeePass database for a while and the game's gone also and it's been a while and so I'll have to re-download and get a new impression.

First thing I remember though: I think it would look better (and maybe offer some more flexibility, based on what the character does other than learning abilites) if the skill tree was generated only a few steps ahead instead of fully.

[crazyabe]

PTW

[Angle]

Sorry for the delayed non-answer. My laptop got re-installed and I hadn't access to my KeePass database for a while and the game's gone also and it's been a while and so I'll have to re-download and get a new impression.

First thing I remember though: I think it would look better (and maybe offer some more flexibility, based on what the character does other than learning abilites) if the skill tree was generated only a few steps ahead instead of fully.

That's actually how I'm doing it now. I'm actually most of the way through a huge skill tree rework, behold!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's a little bugged right now, though not as much as when I took this screenshot. When I'm done it'll only generate a ring in advance, each ring being five layers of nodes, which are sorted into clusters. Eventually there'll be more variety in clusters but for the moment they're all pretty basic.

[Orange Wizard]

That looks delicious.

[Antsan]

That looks much better. Suddenly choosing the next skill doesn't seem like a chore but like an exciting adventure.

[Parsely]

Sorry for the delayed non-answer. My laptop got re-installed and I hadn't access to my KeePass database for a while and the game's gone also and it's been a while and so I'll have to re-download and get a new impression.

First thing I remember though: I think it would look better (and maybe offer some more flexibility, based on what the character does other than learning abilites) if the skill tree was generated only a few steps ahead instead of fully.

That's actually how I'm doing it now. I'm actually most of the way through a huge skill tree rework, behold!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's a little bugged right now, though not as much as when I took this screenshot. When I'm done it'll only generate a ring in advance, each ring being five layers of nodes, which are sorted into clusters. Eventually there'll be more variety in clusters but for the moment they're all pretty basic.

Wow that's a lot. That looks really neat. So kind of like the sphere grid from Final Fantasy X except procedurally generated?

[Angle]

Wow that's a lot. That looks really neat. So kind of like the sphere grid from Final Fantasy X except procedurally generated?

Yup. I finally beat the last of the skill tree bugs into submission:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That looks much better. Suddenly choosing the next skill doesn't seem like a chore but like an exciting adventure.

That's the idea.

[Antsan]

It's sad that you cannot see my eyes right now, because they display some really damn nicely rendered stars.

[FallacyofUrist]

*clapping*
I look forwards to seeing this game completed, however long that may be.
In any case, congrats on the progress.

[Angle]

It's sad that you cannot see my eyes right now, because they display some really damn nicely rendered stars.

  Always happy to please. I'm working on randomly generated skills next. They're not much to look at yet, but they're coming along pretty well.

*clapping*
I look forwards to seeing this game completed, however long that may be.
In any case, congrats on the progress.

Thank you.

[Dansmithers]

Posting to watch, and also to say how delicious those trees are.

[Angle]

Alright, so it occurred to me that I might be going about making the abilities all wrong. I had been going about it in a very generic fashion - I had scripts like "Damaging Spell", Debuff Spell, etc, and I'm think that maybe instead I should have more specific scripts - fireball, eruption, etc. I can still make these pretty variable, and I can even arrange to have it hook multiple of them together to make a spell. Does that sound like a better approach?

[Orange Wizard]

The way I'd do it would be to have number of different shapes (projectile, beam, touch, self, etc.) and combine those with effects (fire, healing, paralysis, etc.). Then you could just change numbers around to make things better or worse depending on skill or buffs and so on.
You'd get a number of useless spells, so the AI would need to know the difference between harmful and helpful effects.

[Angle]

The way I'd do it would be to have number of different shapes (projectile, beam, touch, self, etc.) and combine those with effects (fire, healing, paralysis, etc.). Then you could just change numbers around to make things better or worse depending on skill or buffs and so on.
You'd get a number of useless spells, so the AI would need to know the difference between harmful and helpful effects.

The way I'd been doing things currently had the spell generators split up into targeting methods (Projectile, enemy target, area target, self target, etc) and effects (Damage, Debuff, Terrain alteration, etc). The trouble with this method was that it resulted in a few giant bloated scripts and it made it fairly difficult to make the scripts work properly together. The way I'm thinking maybe I should do things is instead have a whole lot of smaller scripts, like Fireball, Ice Pillar, etc, etc, and have each of them have a number of different sliders. This means that I'll have way simpler scripts, and as a bonus I'll also be able to make the spells stick to fairly specific archetypes. I should still be able to have a fairly significant variety of effects, too - you might have a homing fireball, or a fireball with a huge explosive radius, or a fireball that ignore spell resistance, or a fireball that leaves behind an area of burning, or a fireball with a secondary elemental effect, like poison or lightning, or whatever.