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[Reudh]

So I was a roadhog, enemy team had two Winstons working together to get their ults up. They called themselves (predictably) the Harambe Bros. Both of them used Primal Rage at me to get on to the point (Numbani i think?). They killed two of our team in doing so. One got play of the game for this. The play of the game sadly cut out a second before i used Whole Hog and knocked them both off a cliff to their deaths while their ults were still active. Gah.

[EnigmaticHat]

if genji gets nerfed, he'll be trash

maybe increase the cost for his ult, or reduce the duration, but that's about all he can take

I'm ok with his non-ult kit.  Cutting 1-3 seconds off his ult would be best IMO.  The weakness of the thing, far as I can tell, is the self-disable it inflicts on activation and deactivation.  But 6 seconds might as well be a century with an ulting Genji around, so its not much of a weakness against a smart opponent.

I'm really ok with widow being trash.  Balanced or not, its never to fun to get one-shot by a sniper in FPSs.  At least with most characters you get to fight a bit before you have to trudge all the way back to the battle.

[Flying Dice]

And that's an example of why Genji polarizes so hard. A good Genji can animation-cancel both the drawing and sheathing, IIRC.

[EnigmaticHat]

And that's an example of why Genji polarizes so hard. A good Genji can animation-cancel both the drawing and sheathing, IIRC.

It looks like its only the end animation.  Which is stupid, but at the end of the day if you survived the full duration of dragonblade at that point you've pretty much done your job.  So I don't think it makes much difference from a balance perspective that *ending* the ult can be made safer.

[EnigmaticHat]

Apparently the PTR has some nerfs up for Genji.  Might just get my wishes   I'm like Overwatch balance Nostradamus, this is the only game I play where the devs agree with me consistently.

In other news, ults are pathetic in this meta.  So many characters can cancel them or negate their effect.  Its not the main reason but just like, make a list in your head of characters who can either protect themselves or others from Zarya's ult.  Its like... more than half the cast this point.  And the other half have either an ult or CC they can use to return fire in a limited capacity.  Part of the reason Genji is sticking out like a mole ready to be hit by the wack-a-hero nerf hammer, is because he has one of the few attack ults that Defense Matrix doesn't work on.  The others are Earthshatter, RIP-Tire, and Self-Destruct.  Primal Rage doesn't count as an attack ult in my mind, and Dragonstrike can technically be blocked.

I think out of the above list Reinhardt is also sticking out.  Earthshatter has a problem.  And that problem is that to be truly safe from it, you need Reinhardt.  Or you need to have your entire team playing around it.  Maybe if you have a Winston and Zarya working together to constantly have a barrier off cooldown and in position to block it, and ever vigilant that they don't get disabled themselves, you can block it with non-Reinhardt barriers.  Or you can just like, never be on the ground in front of Rein.  But those are both clearly too much effort to stop a quickly charging ult on an already above average character.  And you don't even need to go for the triple to make it work.  You can drop it solo early in a fight to turn it into a 5 v 6 which usually wins the fight for your team barring skill imbalance or the other team having all their ults ready.

[darkrider2]

I stopped playing for a while, basically said I was going to wait for season 2 to come around or genji nerfs to come around. Guess blizzard read my mind cause they did both. Well, it's on PTR but goddamn these genji nerfs better go live.

[hops]

I'd rather they buffed Winston.

[Reudh]

I'd rather they buffed Winston.

Winston's toolset is pretty damn good as is. I think he's in much the same place as Reaper: strong, not overpowered, a viable choice most of the time.

Winston's not got as much damage as say, D.Va or Roadhog or Reinhardt or even Zarya, but consider his toolset revolves almost entirely around distraction. Jump in, damage an entire team enough to frighten them, use your barrier to give yourself a bit of breathing room while you wait for jump pack to ready again, use your bulk to survive then leap away.

Heck, Primal Rage is just that: you're knocking the foes about, you're a big, dangerous looking target that can close distances fast, and you have huge HP. You can't easily kill with it because the swipes don't deal that much damage, and knock foes back as they hit. It's all about distracting foes so your team mates can clean up.

[Folly]

Season 1 ended, and I'm just not feeling the casual. Guess it's time to play Pokemon Uranium while I wait for season 2.

[Ivefan]

Winston's not got as much damage as say, D.Va or Roadhog or Reinhardt or even Zarya

I like how you seem to imply that zarya does the least damage of the tanks. properly played, shes lethal.

Season 1 ended, and I'm just not feeling the casual. Guess it's time to play Pokemon Uranium while I wait for season 2.

Agreed, after only playing competitive for a while, quickplay feels annoying.

[IWishIWereSarah]

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand why they wouldn't let Season 1 last until the beginning of season 2....

[umiman]

Did anyone post the new Bastion FMV?

If not, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg

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I really liked that war scene, though now they need to tell us how he went from nature-loving-PTSD-peacebot to the psychopathic-mass-murdering-chokepoint-camper he is now.

I'm also curious about another point. Bastion is apparently an omnic according to the description. Omnics are sentient robots, no? Yet Bastion and all his mass-manufactured comrades clearly have programmed directives installed into them. So... did the war happen because all these guys got hacked and someone forced them to war? Or were they just being derpy with the definition of Omnics?

[sjm9876]

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There's two people wearing power armour there. With Eichenwalde showing a set of armour slumped on the throne I'm kinda curious as to whether there's a whole platoon of them or something more interesting going on.

[ZebioLizard2]

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There's two people wearing power armour there. With Eichenwalde showing a set of armour slumped on the throne I'm kinda curious as to whether there's a whole platoon of them or something more interesting going on.

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They are a group called the Crusaders, the guy on the throne was the leader known as Balderich Von Alder. Reinhardt was a member of this group during the crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3xFKckFCGM

The site of one of the most famous battles during the Omnic Crisis, it was here that the leader of the Crusaders, Balderich von Adler, and a handful of his best soldiers made a last stand against an advancing automaton army. Outnumbered and outgunned, they were ultimately slain during the resulting combat. However, thanks to their valiant efforts, the German military was able to push back the omnic offensive and win the fight.

On this map, one team must escort a battering ram to Eichenwalde Castle to reclaim Balderich’s remains from their current resting place, while the opposing team does everything in its power to thwart the keep from being breached.

[sjm9876]

Ta, hadn't seen the lore text. Still pretty cool.

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Though now I'm wondering where the dragonesque horns mounted on the wall came from