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[Kot]

You can never have enough loyalty. Also there are three (four, with Tau) evil factions so I guess we should have four good ones to counterweight that.

[Majestic7]

Imperial fascist pigs are pretty evil, though. We need Necron to cleanse the galaxy of the blight that is called life. Afterwards there won't be any evil or suffering.

[Dansmithers]

You can never have enough loyalty. Also there are three (four, with Tau) evil factions so I guess we should have four good ones to counterweight that.

four good ones to counterweight that.

good ones

kek

[EnigmaticHat]

There was a good faction once.

The fans complained.

[Kot]

kek

Indeed.
I meant that as a joke, but I wouldn't have anything against more special Imperial stuff... maybe if only as minor DLCs with ships for Imperial Navy.

There was a good faction once.

The fans complained.

If you mean Tau then people complained because they were... well, Tau. TBH, most "civilized" factions are good to some extent though. Eldar aren't that bad except they're elitist fucks, Imperium is struggling to exist and not let everyone die horribly, Tau despite being lobotomizing fucks still sometimes use diplomacy and so on.

[umiman]

I beat the campaign finally. It took way too long. Like I said before I have no clue why I kept playing it as it really wasn't that fun at all.

There were a number of amusing points though.

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1. I was particularly amused by its rendition of the Battle of Gethsemane. It's supposed to be a major and massive battle equivalent to the Normandy Landings.  The game's pre-battle briefings hype it up quite a lot as well. In game it ended up being Imperial forces (2 battleships, 2 battlecruisers, 1 cruiser, and 1 light cruiser) completely wiping out a pathetic Chaos force (1 battlecruiser, 1 cruiser, 6 light cruisers). I raised an eyebrow when it went "WATCH OUT THEY'RE AMBUSHING US!" and the ambush forces just ended up being three light cruisers.

2. The final battle against the Orks is very fun. You fight a space hulk. It's not difficult at all but it's very funny. The ending is quite cute.

3. The game does a great job of making you hate Abbadon the Harmless. You keep fighting him and his stupid overpowered ship but he keeps warping out at -1 hp. Seriously, his ship is nuts. It will wipe the floor of your light cruisers in seconds. Then there's the weapon that gives his ship its namesake.

4. I don't understand why the game introduces the legendary Chaos ships like the Terminus Est and then we just destroy it like it was no big thang. I'm pretty frigging sure the Terminus Est didn't get destroyed by a single Battleship in the Gothic War... if at all.

5. The final battle is kinda amusing. I lost my shit when I saw I had to deal with the Planet Killer as well as three other Chaos battleships at the same frigging time. But then the Planet Killer got bugged out behind an asteroid field and I peppered it with melta torpedoes, bombers, and nova cannon blasts. Then when it was at half health the Eldar AI allies managed to land a direct hit on its ass with their full blast and brought the Planet Killer to 10% health in one hit. No idea what the other battleships did. Maybe they were fucking around with the asteroid fields who knows.

[Kot]

Yeah, the campaign is basically just a bunch of missions loosely connected by lore. Not very different from regular singleplayer skirmishes. I must say that I liked the bad ending... which didin't differ that much from good ending, but eh, it was worth it.

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My ship is closing in to the Blackstone Fortresses. All power to the Void Shields! We will attempt to put an end to this madness! By my faith, may the light of the Emperor spread to the furthest stars! By my duty, the Galaxy will belong to the righteous! By my actions, the Imperial Navy shall be honoured and remembered upon the Holy Terra! FOR THE EMPEROR OF MANKIND... AND THE BATTLEFLEET GOTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCC!!!

[umiman]

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My ship is closing in to the Blackstone Fortresses. All power to the Void Shields! We will attempt to put an end to this madness! By my faith, may the light of the Emperor spread to the furthest stars! By my duty, the Galaxy will belong to the righteous! By my actions, the Imperial Navy shall be honoured and remembered upon the Holy Terra! FOR THE EMPEROR OF MANKIND... AND THE BATTLEFLEET GOTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCC!!!

Yeah, that part was pretty cool.

[Cthulhu]

If an assassination mission has a goal on the other side of the map why the hell is he also allowed to warp out?  That's fucking stupid.

[EnigmaticHat]

Are you talking about the MP mission type?

[Cthulhu]

I'm playing skirmish.

I've lost the last like three missions in a row because apparently in BFG being routed means you win.  All three I've lost because the enemy warped out

[EnigmaticHat]

Yeah, I was watching multiplayer videos and the mission objectives are one of two reasons I didn't buy the game.  Assassination and data recovery if the defender is faster/more evasive, they win automatically.  Breakthrough/station defense if the attacker has better long range fire power (especially the nova cannon) they become the de facto defender since they can destroy the objective(s) at range.

[Cthulhu]

Cruiser battle or whatever is fun, but breakthrough is basically impossible on defense.  There's no fucking way to keep those things alive and ships are tough enough you'll never kill them before they cross the line.

[umiman]

More or less the only fun modes are cruiser clash and escort.

Assassination is stupid because it's impossible to kill an ork ship in time and the others can just run away easily from the other side of the map.

Don't get me started on the planetary bombardment nonsense and their RNG spawn points.

Data recovery can get amusing but most of the time it sucks as you'll spend too much time chasing someone down.

Breakthrough is pointless as carriers / Eldar make short work of them. Orks can just ram them for an instant win.

[Cthulhu]

What this has really done is make me curious about actual Battlefleet Gothic.