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[Scripten]

you're one of the more active players and helped lynch TDS

I disagree that this is alignment-indicative in any way. Are aliens even are of one another? I thought every alien was a third-party role.

There's certainly no precedent for clearing people for being on the TDS wagon.

[Jim Groovester]

  If it wasn't obvious [maybe it wasn't to you], I wanted to see how he would react to my own sudden push.  I'm was fairly certain he wasn't going to tell me who the medium was, even if it wasn't faked.  And we were unlikely to get anything other than another waste of the town's time out the deal.

If you had such low expectations of the results you would receive from the reaction test, why did you go through with it in the first place?

If people had started voting Cheeetar along with you would you still have unvoted after getting the results to your reaction test?

[pisskop]

  If it wasn't obvious [maybe it wasn't to you], I wanted to see how he would react to my own sudden push.  I'm was fairly certain he wasn't going to tell me who the medium was, even if it wasn't faked.  And we were unlikely to get anything other than another waste of the town's time out the deal.

If you had such low expectations of the results you would receive from the reaction test, why did you go through with it in the first place?

If people had started voting Cheeetar along with you would you still have unvoted after getting the results to your reaction test?

No, I had low expectations of his push, not my reaction test.

[Jim Groovester]

What were you hoping to get out of the reaction test besides a generic reaction?

[Cheeetar]

A question for you who are hesitant to vote Pisskop in the event that he's just a poorly performing town: Where are all the mafia jumping on him? He's such an easy target, surely, so where are the scum pushing his lynch? Why isn't somebody apart from me seeing how suspicious his actions are?

I see his actions as suspicious, but at the same time so is your trying to lynch an investigative role and you were on same wagon as Mastahcheese for a while D1. Since pisskop is going to have to tell us his night info, and you're one of the more active players and helped lynch TDS, I'd rather go for Shakerag.

Emphasis mine- because he chose such an excellent night action Night 1, right?

[Jim Groovester]

What were you hoping to get out of the reaction test besides a generic reaction?

Never mind. I don't believe you anyway and I'm not going to spend any more energy trying to extract answers out of you.

[pisskop]

Good, shoo away then.


Cheeeta, you don't think hitting the vig target, the NK, and the war vet all while under the BG protection (and the BG lived) is a good target?

[Tiruin]

PFP -- Related stuff stops big post formation and will have to wait until later because of classes

Tiruin, why did a Telepath PM you and confide their night action results with you? What was their reasoning for contacting you?

...It was sent to only me, so I thought there was some sort of BCC given the general talk of the day 'the primary focus of suspicion on me is either "scum devoid of content cruising through the day" or "neutral idea devoid of content cruising through the day" :v
Said Telepath didn't feel that way about me (noted on the side that said Telepath chose to trust me given small parts in my posts). Otherwise, its something we didn't talk about because...
...It didn't come to mind for me to ask. So many things are unsure. We traded the idea that we're both town and until now the reasoning seems that way--though obviously I've been voted by them here and there to keep ideas up and such.


pisskop: Why're you acting all boastful(?) or a rather arrogant tone in your posts lately?
There's just the superficial read that tells me you're being rude -.-

[notquitethere]

It'll take five seconds. VOTE FOR SOMEONE, TIRUIN. Pleaaaaaase

[Tiruin]

That would've come later on >_<
The time required to post it despite my typing speed in regards to length and detail of post is missing.
Scripten as a note.
Later on - details.
Argh coincidences (and my alarm) x_x

[notquitethere]

Persus
Cute testimonials, but how will getting yourself lynched help the town?


Deus

I don't have my replies to pisskop saved because there's an option you have to enable to do that for some reason.

That's ok, I think I've seen enough to believe that you and Pisskop don't share a scumchat.


Scripten

And, to be fair, I kinda hope she isn't scum just because she's so damned nice, but that's not exactly alignment-indicative.

Unfortunately not.


Persus

I'd rather not have seen either flabort or pisskop lynched, although if I had to choose one of them, it would have probably been Flabort because of the whole outing 4maskwolf's role thing. It's moot now, especially since scum knew 4maskwolf as soon as MC checked his PMs. Otherwise I felt that pisskop was a flailing new player and that Flabort was getting too much flack over the PM comment at the beginning of the game, especially considering how much PM shenanigans happened at the end of Day 1. It's kindof ridiculous.
I definitely would have gone with TDS over Flabort. Hindsight may be clouding my judgement, but I would have gone with TDS over Flabort.

This is sufficiently reasonable. You intend to keep a vote on until the end of the day? Not voting is a cardinal sin in my books.


Cheetar

A question for you who are hesitant to vote Pisskop in the event that he's just a poorly performing town: Where are all the mafia jumping on him? He's such an easy target, surely, so where are the scum pushing his lynch? Why isn't somebody apart from me seeing how suspicious his actions are?

That's a reasonable question on the face of it, but the answer is inconclusive. This is the score now:

pisskop: Cheeetar [2]
zombie urist: Deus Asmoth, Persus13 [2]
Tiruin: Scripten, notquitethere [2]
UXLZ: zombie urist [1]
Shakerag: Persus, Pisskop [2]
Scripten: Tiruin [1]
Not Voting: Shakerag, Jim, Toaster

The vote is all kinds of split. The scum team play right now is probably to hang back and wait until nearer the end of the day and hope that one of their number doesn't feel any heat.


Jim

pisskop - Everything pisskop does makes me want to vote him, but by virtue of night actions he maybe isn't scum, maybe? I'm starting to feel like lynching him for being distracting would be a legitimately good idea, and this may be the first time I've actually thought that way.

If there were flowers I'd say he could be a bloomer, he has a deathwish. But there's almost no one that could conceivably be on his scum team. I think we should lynch players that might actually perform the scum kill tonight.

The jump from pisskop to zombie urist in terms of my scum read is rather large. zombie urist is more of a slight scum lean, whereas pisskop is at 'i want to vote him so fucking bad' level of scumread. So before you ask why I'm not voting pisskop, it's because night actions (probably) make him unlikely scum, and before you ask why I'm then not voting zombie urist, it's because my read isn't that strong.

What do you think of lynching the players that have yet to contribute much today, Toaster, Shakerag or Tiruin?


Tiruin

That would've come later on >_<
The time required to post it despite my typing speed in regards to length and detail of post is missing.
Scripten as a note.
Later on - details.
Argh coincidences (and my alarm) x_x

Thank you. That wasn't that hard. I'm looking forward to your details later. Enjoy your classes!

[Cheeetar]

Good, shoo away then.


Cheeeta, you don't think hitting the vig target, the NK, and the war vet all while under the BG protection (and the BG lived) is a good target?

No, I don't think following someone who went nowhere and getting 0 information whatsoever was good.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
pisskop: Cheeetar
zombie urist: Deus Asmoth
Scripten: Tiruin
Shakerag: pisskop, Persus13
Tiruin: Scripten, notquitethere
UXLZ: zombie urist


Day ends ~5pm Pacific Tuesday

[pisskop]

Maybe tonight Ill follow  you then. xoxo

[Jim Groovester]

Jim

pisskop - Everything pisskop does makes me want to vote him, but by virtue of night actions he maybe isn't scum, maybe? I'm starting to feel like lynching him for being distracting would be a legitimately good idea, and this may be the first time I've actually thought that way.

If there were flowers I'd say he could be a bloomer, he has a deathwish. But there's almost no one that could conceivably be on his scum team. I think we should lynch players that might actually perform the scum kill tonight.

Don't be so quick to write him off as a suspect. I could see pisskop watching ToonyMan so that if other people besides mastahcheese visit ToonyMan, pisskop would have somebody to blame for ToonyMan's death. It's a bad scum plan; atrocious, in fact. But why would that stop pisskop, who has to his record a considerable number of questionable actions?

Is he unlikely to be scum? I'm on the fence about it.

Also, the dopp team will have a night kill as long as they're around, so it's not that important to prioritize the one doing the dopp kill over any dopp in general.

What do you think of lynching the players that have yet to contribute much today, Toaster, Shakerag or Tiruin?

I find all three of those players hard to read.

I think Toaster is a survivor, in part because of Tiruin's PM confidant's survive results. Tiruin has been around doing stuff despite her lack of a vote or a case. Shakerag has done absolutely nothing of significance on Day 2, so of the three people you mentioned he would be the one I would be most willing to lynch.