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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1583195 times)

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13635 on: March 07, 2016, 10:22:39 am »

Funny you're using George Orwell of 'Orwellian' as a source on that.

It's not ironic in the least.  George Orwell wrote extensively on the use of labels to shut out unpopular views.  Although Godwins law wasn't articulated until long after his death I think he would have been a full hearted supporter of the sentiment.

If you have never read his non-fiction, I really recommend it.  The man had a fantastic gift for cutting through the bullshit and explaining what people actually talked about.

It's interesting how the evil SJW candidate isn't the one who mainly appeals to white liberal college students. The SJW candidate is the one with moderate appeal, the one that the far-left Tumblr crowd thinks is a bad feminist and a corporate sellout.

The one who is also a war criminal (many places on the internet) and a panderer (this forum).
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13636 on: March 07, 2016, 10:24:31 am »


It's interesting how the evil SJW candidate isn't the one who mainly appeals to white liberal college students. The SJW candidate is the one with moderate appeal, the one that the far-left Tumblr crowd thinks is a bad feminist and a corporate sellout. This is a perception I've noticed quite a few times before.
Probably because being a SJW isn't being a leftist, it's being both leftist and an irrational demagogic shithead at the same time. Hence Hillary Clinton, or at least a section of her campaign strat.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13637 on: March 07, 2016, 10:24:45 am »

Don't bother denying the pander label, mainiac. All politicos are panderers anyway.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13638 on: March 07, 2016, 10:28:41 am »


It's interesting how the evil SJW candidate isn't the one who mainly appeals to white liberal college students. The SJW candidate is the one with moderate appeal, the one that the far-left Tumblr crowd thinks is a bad feminist and a corporate sellout. This is a perception I've noticed quite a few times before.
Probably because being a SJW isn't being a leftist, it's being both leftist and an irrational demagogic shithead at the same time. Hence Hillary Clinton, or at least a section of her campaign strat.

Trump is the irrational demagogic shithead, not Clinton, they're polar opposites there. There is a healthy dose of demagogurey that is always present in election campaigns though.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13639 on: March 07, 2016, 10:30:58 am »


It's interesting how the evil SJW candidate isn't the one who mainly appeals to white liberal college students. The SJW candidate is the one with moderate appeal, the one that the far-left Tumblr crowd thinks is a bad feminist and a corporate sellout. This is a perception I've noticed quite a few times before.
Probably because being a SJW isn't being a leftist, it's being both leftist and an irrational demagogic shithead at the same time. Hence Hillary Clinton, or at least a section of his campaign strat.

How would you feel if I wrote this?

"Probably because being a SJW isn't being a leftist, it's being both leftist and an irrational demagogic shithead at the same time. Hence Bernie Sanders, or at least a section of her campaign strat."

Also, would you report me for writing that?
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13640 on: March 07, 2016, 10:33:49 am »

You see, it only took hours for me to take your bait.

I'd feel confused that you're misgendering Bernie Sanders, but also not really affected given that he is neither irrational, nor demagogic, nor a shithead. Really just the opposite of all those things, actively.

If that report comment is a threat, then lol good luck, if it's a real question then no. I'm pretty sure I've never reported you, I mostly use the function to get rid of greenlight advertisers on Other Games.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13641 on: March 07, 2016, 10:34:07 am »

How would you feel if I wrote this?

"Probably because being a SJW isn't being a leftist, it's being both leftist and an irrational demagogic shithead at the same time. Hence Bernie Sanders, or at least a section of her campaign strat."

Also, would you report me for writing that?
so is "bernie" short for "bernadette" in that scenario?

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13642 on: March 07, 2016, 10:34:13 am »

You forgot to change the gender tense.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13643 on: March 07, 2016, 10:35:00 am »


It's interesting how the evil SJW candidate isn't the one who mainly appeals to white liberal college students. The SJW candidate is the one with moderate appeal, the one that the far-left Tumblr crowd thinks is a bad feminist and a corporate sellout. This is a perception I've noticed quite a few times before.
Probably because being a SJW isn't being a leftist, it's being both leftist and someone I disagree with at the same time. Hence Hillary Clinton, or at least a section of her campaign strat.

FTFY.
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« Reply #13644 on: March 07, 2016, 10:37:58 am »

Huh, that's weird, it means the same thing I wrote the first time.  8)
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13645 on: March 07, 2016, 10:38:18 am »

I'd feel confused that you're misgendering Bernie Sanders, but also not really affected given that he is neither irrational, nor demagogic, nor a shithead. Really just the opposite of all those things, actively.
Nnnooo, bernie kinda' is both irrational (on a few subjects) and demagogic (very much so, the guy's an outright populist). Shithead, at least, not so much, but neither is clinton by any reasonable definition of the term. They both manage to mostly be inoffensive insofar as that goes, and they've both got massive jackasses on their side of the grassroots, so... yeah.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13646 on: March 07, 2016, 10:38:57 am »

Huh, that's weird, it means the same thing I wrote the first time.  8)

Do you realize how disrespectful that is to other people?

but also not really affected given that he is neither irrational, nor demagogic, nor a shithead. Really just the opposite of all those things, actively.

So what I'm getting is that you feel that it would not be appropriate to categorize the views of a politician you like that way.  However you feel it is approrpriate to categorize the views of a politician other people like that way?
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« Reply #13647 on: March 07, 2016, 10:43:11 am »

Lo and behold the mighty works of mainiac, king of reframing. Know thy words be turned against thy breast, and despair.
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« Reply #13648 on: March 07, 2016, 10:44:41 am »

Lo and behold the mighty works of mainiac, king of reframing. Know thy words be turned against thy breast, and despair.

So you feel that your words are being turned against you.  What part of the meaning of your words do you feel is being lost?
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« Reply #13649 on: March 07, 2016, 10:46:03 am »

So you feel that your words are being turned against you.  What part of the meaning of your words do you feel is being lost?
the part where they sound like good words
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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