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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13125 on: March 01, 2016, 10:33:46 pm »

Give it time. Once Clinton is the nominee, I guarantee you'll see a lot of muttering about "pulling a Vince Foster on her".


Sanders looks set to win Minnesota, Vermont, and Oklahoma and has a decent shot at Colorado. So far, this is probably a better night than expected for the Sanders camp, despite getting shellacked hard in the South.


EDIT: Kasich within 600 votes of Trump in Vermont.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13126 on: March 01, 2016, 10:38:54 pm »

So far, this is probably a better night than expected for the Sanders camp

As the resident killjoy, I'm gonna say you are wrong on that.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13127 on: March 01, 2016, 10:40:24 pm »

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So far, this is probably a better night than expected for the Sanders camp
Agreed; I was basically expecting him to start and end in Vermont. I'm putting it down to state polls being dodgier than national ones, especially in flyover country.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13128 on: March 01, 2016, 10:40:44 pm »

So far, this is probably a better night than expected for the Sanders camp

As the resident killjoy, I'm gonna say you are wrong on that.
Eh?
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13129 on: March 01, 2016, 10:41:50 pm »

So far, this is probably a better night than expected for the Sanders camp

As the resident killjoy, I'm gonna say you are wrong on that.
I would be disappointed if you didn't.
It's a mixed bag -- symbolic victories by taking at least four states. Possible strategic losses by ceding more delegates in the South.
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« Reply #13130 on: March 01, 2016, 10:42:34 pm »

Don't know why Minnesota hasn't been called for Sanders yet, maybe the more populated areas haven't sent all of their votes in yet.
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« Reply #13131 on: March 01, 2016, 10:45:54 pm »

It's a mixed bag -- symbolic victories by taking at least four states. Possible strategic losses by ceding more delegates in the South.

Symbolism and momentum only really matter going into Super Tuesday.  This is the point where it's simple delegate accumulation.  Clinton pretty much got the nomination in the bag with the blowout victories tonight.  Sanders would need to have a near miraculous surge and win remaining states by like 15% where he is currently losing by 20%.  He neeed to be running the tables in New England to make up for his deficit in the south.  Instead it's basically tied in Massachusetts.

Even in the crazy pants banana town that is the republican nomination, it's really getting to the point where the count of delegates starts to be the most important thing.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13132 on: March 01, 2016, 10:47:19 pm »

In that case, *sigh*.

Then again, those states might sway the later ones.  I don't actually KNOW, but hey, there is a chance.
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« Reply #13133 on: March 01, 2016, 10:47:56 pm »

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Hinsdale County, CO: 100% reporting, 14 votes, 10-3 to Sanders

A triumphant and decisive victory. I guess 7% of the vote in that county went to Vermin Supreme.

Someone wasted their vote on O'Malley, I bet.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13134 on: March 01, 2016, 10:48:02 pm »

Eh. At this point, I'm probably going to write-in Stalin or something...but I dunno about writing out Sanders. I mean, I really doubt he's going to win the nomination, but with southern states out of the way, he could make a comeback.

Again, I have no stake in this argument plz no murder.
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« Reply #13135 on: March 01, 2016, 10:48:37 pm »

Eh. At this point, I'm probably going to write-in Stalin or something...but I dunno about writing out Sanders. I mean, I really doubt he's going to win the nomination, but with southern states out of the way, he could make a comeback.

Again, I have no stake in this argument plz no murder.

Come on now. People throwing away their vote only makes it worse.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13136 on: March 01, 2016, 10:50:30 pm »

It's a mixed bag -- symbolic victories by taking at least four states. Possible strategic losses by ceding more delegates in the South.

Symbolism and momentum only really matter going into Super Tuesday.  This is the point where it's simple delegate accumulation.  Clinton pretty much got the nomination in the bag with the blowout victories tonight.  Sanders would need to have a near miraculous surge and win remaining states by like 15% where he is currently losing by 20%.  He neeed to be running the tables in New England to make up for his deficit in the south.  Instead it's basically tied in Massachusetts.

Even in the crazy pants banana town that is the republican nomination, it's really getting to the point where the count of delegates starts to be the most important thing.

The one saving grace for Sanders is that the bulk of the black-heavy states are tonight. He could potentially do a lot better in the Mountain West and the upper Midwest. And even in the more diverse states, the gap is closing. Clinton's lead here in NC is down to +10 in the latest poll, which means I'll probably be voting in the Dem primary after all.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13137 on: March 01, 2016, 10:50:42 pm »

Oh no, I was unclear. I'm not throwing away my vote because I was a Sanders fan, I'm throwing it away because, at this point, I'm finally resigned to all the candidates being bad.
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« Reply #13138 on: March 01, 2016, 10:50:57 pm »

Oh no, I was unclear. I'm not throwing away my vote because I was a Sanders fan, I'm throwing it away because, at this point, I'm finally resigned to all the candidates being bad.
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« Reply #13139 on: March 01, 2016, 10:52:41 pm »

He'll still get a significant number of delegates, enough to have a strong voice in the Convention.

I read somewhere (forget where, might have been a 538 article or a Politico history section article) that if a candidate (Jessie Jackson in the case I'm remembering) gets enough delegates (15%?)they get something called a 'minority report' (nothing to do with the movie) and they have a major say in the party's policy platform. But that one was back in the 80's, so, I don't know how it works now.

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edit: The civil rights activist, not the outlaw (I had Jessie James in by accident).
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