I forget, did we look for statistics about this when we discussed this ebfore?
If we didn't settle it with statistics, are you sure it isn't just a few of them being bad apples, and it being reported intensely because it was unusual?
I don't think we've done one specifically for immigration and crime in the USA, and I wouldn't chalk it to more reporting because it's under-reported or just not even news
I mean, the news rarely reports on "routine" things - like murders in majority black cities, or on suicides unless they're cops or murder-suicides or otherwise sensational. There's rarely reporting on murders in general unless they're mass shootings, or happen to middle-class or upper-class people, or involve a pretty girl, as far as I can tell. So I wonder - if rapes are common in Europe, but usually perpetrated by someone the victim knows, would the news just virtually never report on anything like that because it's routine, unless it becomes sensational?
If we're talking Europe no, it's nothing to do with the media, as they tried covering this up and the numbers are already out (I can post in Yurop thread, do not want to derail Obamathread)
[If you're wondering, statistics on suicide and homicide by firearm by race]
Showing that suicide by firearm rates are much higher among white males (than white females, black males, or black females), and homicide by firearm rates are ridiculously high for black males:
The CDC PDF that came from. You've probably seen it before.
I haven't, thanks it was pretty interesting. I've wondered how much of this is to do with the different black culture in America than anywhere in Africa or Europe that prizes money, bitches and a particular honour above all, how much of this is to do with large urban ghettoes or sparse rural communities and how much of this is other factors like poverty or Obama not fixing everything. As well on the suicide rates, I had hoped that african american men had found something unique since the general rule of thumb is women attempt more suicides with higher failure rates (cutting across the street, sleeping pills and alcohol) whilst men attempt less suicides with far more successful methods (like guns and gravity), but it seems the trend was not broken
and shit's still shit.
I clicked the link, it went to wikipedia, and then I clicked the citation, and there was no way to follow it to get to the actual source, so anyone could have just made up the numbers. vOv
No one would ever make up numbers on wikipedia, it is 100% truth and justice with zero fabrications or distortions
But! If they're real numbers:
So what you're saying is that people were crossing the southern border to try to get into the US illegally before the financial meltdown, maybe some were bringing drugs (it's unclear), and that the federal courts were spending a huge amount of time dealing with them, right?
Nah I don't really know enough about the situation to make an in depth analysis of my own, I'm just saying there appears to be enough evidence to suggest le toupe dollar man is not bullshitting the fullshit