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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1571017 times)

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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9450 on: January 10, 2016, 07:09:26 pm »

Wait, flatlanders and wannabe France? Won't somebody think of the children waffles!? #probablynotasfunnyasithink
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9451 on: January 10, 2016, 07:36:36 pm »

We do it all the time here in Europe. Most West-European and Scandinavian countries still are monarchies. Or if you want, hybrids between constituional monarchy and parliamentary democracy. Monarchs do provide some extra stability.
I think if Belgium didn't still have a monarch, it'd have fallen apart into Flanders and Wallonnabee France decades ago.
Constitutional monarchies don't count, they're a different beast entirely.

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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9452 on: January 10, 2016, 07:39:56 pm »

Thing about the Constitution is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the government would lose horribly. The Constitution would then be re-instated.


Thing about the Monarchy is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Monarchy would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Shogunate is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Shogunate would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Peoples One Party Rule is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The peoples rule would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Baathist revolutionary state is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Baath Party would then be re-instated.
That isn't even an argument. It is a fact that the Constitution has vast popular support, and comparing it to dictatorial regimes is absurd flamebait.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9453 on: January 10, 2016, 07:47:57 pm »

It's pointing out that the exact same claim is valid for many forms of government.  Or is it not self evident that all those governments have or had their loyalists?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9454 on: January 10, 2016, 07:50:05 pm »

The point he's making, Morrigi, is that it's not an intrinsic feature to the Constitution. The Constitution serves the same purpose a Monarch does in a Constitutional Monarchy. It's a figurehead. It also happens to combine the law-making part into itself, which is what makes it seem unique; we place our nation's sacred honor not with King and Country, or God and Neighbor, but with Ideals and State.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9455 on: January 11, 2016, 12:55:03 am »

I just watched that about a week ago.  I had mixed feelings.  It sort of blurs together the three different problems of stupidity, moral hazard and defrauding investors.  All three are really big problems and need to be addressed.  Only the third one should be addressed by putting a bunch of bankers in jail where they belong for this activity which was illegal at the time as well as highly unethical.  But it's perhaps the smallest of the three problems in terms of the damage it did.  The movie sort of portrays it as being at the center of everything.  It true that all three problems were tied together but it's not like the grand plan in 2005 was to defraud investors in summer 2007 so it represented a climax.  But hey, movies need climaxes.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9456 on: January 11, 2016, 01:49:46 am »

Thing about the Constitution is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the government would lose horribly. The Constitution would then be re-instated.


Thing about the Monarchy is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Monarchy would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Shogunate is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Shogunate would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Peoples One Party Rule is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The peoples rule would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Baathist revolutionary state is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Baath Party would then be re-instated.
That isn't even an argument. It is a fact that the Constitution has vast popular support, and comparing it to dictatorial regimes is absurd flamebait.
Wait, I thought he was making a snide comment about regimes/forms of government that everyone said could never fail, because revolutionaries would just re-institute it anyway.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9457 on: January 11, 2016, 02:56:29 am »

Thing about the Constitution is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the government would lose horribly. The Constitution would then be re-instated.


Thing about the Monarchy is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Monarchy would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Shogunate is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Shogunate would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Peoples One Party Rule is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The peoples rule would then be re-instated.
Thing about the Baathist revolutionary state is that attempting to abolish it would result in a civil war and probable coup in which the people I dont like would lose horribly.  The Baath Party would then be re-instated.
That isn't even an argument. It is a fact that the Constitution has vast popular support, and comparing it to dictatorial regimes is absurd flamebait.
Wait, I thought he was making a snide comment about regimes/forms of government that everyone said could never fail, because revolutionaries would just re-institute it anyway.
That's definitely how I read it. Ooh, ooh, he forgot to mention the Soviet Union!
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9458 on: January 11, 2016, 03:49:57 am »

He didn't forget that: "People's One Party Rule" is a direct reference to the Soviets.

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« Reply #9459 on: January 11, 2016, 05:06:37 am »

I think we need a Church of Mainiac thread were we analyze His posts to devine their meaning.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9460 on: January 11, 2016, 05:12:34 am »

Magic 8 ball is what we need.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9461 on: January 11, 2016, 08:19:11 am »

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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9462 on: January 11, 2016, 10:59:09 am »

I think we need a Church of Mainiac thread were we analyze His posts to devine their meaning.
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« Reply #9463 on: January 11, 2016, 11:06:07 am »

Hard to make a pantheon if it's just one guy with a bunch of alts.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9464 on: January 11, 2016, 11:14:46 am »

Is some hindu branches that manage just fine. Trinitarian christian sects do alright with a few, too. Not very hard at all.
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