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[Kazturkey]

Really? What things, in particular? Don't get me wrong, that's not a rhetorical question, I'm legitimately curious. There's a lot about Clinton's reputation that doesn't make sense to me based on the brief research I've done.

Her warhawkery maybe?

I'm also wondering what things in particular though.


@baffler: I don't think even dropping a brick on the brakes would be enough, more like a 10 ton brick on the car itself.

Yep, makes me uneasy that the dem. front runner has more kills to her name than every republican candidate combined. The email thing is a farce as far as I'm concerned, but her foreign policy track record is legitimately disgusting to me.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Really? What things, in particular? Don't get me wrong, that's not a rhetorical question, I'm legitimately curious. There's a lot about Clinton's reputation that doesn't make sense to me based on the brief research I've done.

Her warhawkery maybe?

I'm also wondering what things in particular though.


@baffler: I don't think even dropping a brick on the brakes would be enough, more like a 10 ton brick on the car itself.

Yep, makes me uneasy that the dem. front runner has more kills to her name than every republican candidate combined. The email thing is a farce as far as I'm concerned, but her foreign policy track record is legitimately disgusting to me.

Are you kidding me? Her foreign policy is the #1 reason i'm voting for Hillary. Her "warhawkery" as you put it is a preferable response to the overriding noncommittal attitude we've all witnessed from Obama himself. Warhawkery is bad enough, but standing idly by and making empty threats is ten times worse.

[smjjames]

What do you mean more kills to her name than the republican candidates combined? Also, what do you find disgusting about her foreign policy? Just wondering what you mean particularly here.

Edit: Urist McScoopbeard has a point there.

[Kazturkey]

Her involvement with drone strikes on what the state department call military targets, for one, and her handling of the Benghazi incident for another. Drone strikes are often conducted with poor intelligence and are tantamount to murder of civilians in many cases.

Edit: his point would be fine if she had been good at her job. As far as I'm concerned, she's a literal child-murderer.

Edit of the edit: that's not a jab at abortion policy, it's a jab at her signing off on predator drone strikes on civilian populations. Thought that might bear clarification, given the furthest right candidates rhetoric on the same.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Literally almost every high ranking cabinet member, cabinet-level executive, or even important staffer under both the Bush and Obama administrations are in some way responsible for thousands of innocent deaths. Not to excuse such deadly and ironic shows of force, but Hillary just officially sanctioned the expansion of the program. As for Benghazi, that was hardly her fault, and happened at level a bit below her position frankly. Indeed, the media vilified her to an extreme. I mean, do you really think that somewhat who is constantly described as hawkish would let security slip in an embassy in a hostile area if she had any knowledge of it?

She IS good at her job, damn good, and people like to pick her apart for being aggressive when the world is pretty fucking aggressive towards us. The email thing is her one major flop, and honestly is being handled incorrectly. I wouldn't doubt if that kind of thing was common place.

[Aklyon]

We're just going to get more years of congress refusing to do a damn thing in favor of anything because they don't like the president, regardless of who wins. Even if trump manages to do so despite everything.

[SirQuiamus]

Her involvement with drone strikes on what the state department call military targets, for one, and her handling of the Benghazi incident for another. Drone strikes are often conducted with poor intelligence and are tantamount to murder of civilians in many cases.

Edit: his point would be fine if she had been good at her job. As far as I'm concerned, she's a literal child-murderer.

Edit of the edit: that's not a jab at abortion policy, it's a jab at her signing off on predator drone strikes on civilian populations. Thought that might bear clarification, given the furthest right candidates rhetoric on the same.

Uh-huh, uh-huh...

Donald "How do we solve this problem with poor immigrants? I know! Let's rob them blind and make their children starve to death and round them up in detention centers and kick them so hard across the border that they won't be able to walk back again. That'll teach 'em!" Trump is totally superior to child-killing, blood drinking Billary Rodham Clinton. 

[mainiac]

The email thing is her one major flop, and honestly is being handled incorrectly. I wouldn't doubt if that kind of thing was common place.

If anyone other then Hillary Clinton had this email problem, it would be at most page 30 news.

[Twi]

Donald "How do we solve this problem with poor immigrants? I know! Let's rob them blind and make their children starve to death and round them up in detention centers and kick them so hard across the border that they won't be able to walk back again. That'll teach 'em!" Trump is totally superior to child-killing, blood drinking Billary Rodham Clinton.

And this is why America doesn't need to be made great again. As you can see, America is already great. We have a vampire running for President!

[Kazturkey]

Literally almost every high ranking cabinet member, cabinet-level executive, or even important staffer under both the Bush and Obama administrations are in some way responsible for thousands of innocent deaths. Not to excuse such deadly and ironic shows of force, but Hillary just officially sanctioned the expansion of the program. As for Benghazi, that was hardly her fault, and happened at level a bit below her position frankly. Indeed, the media vilified her to an extreme. I mean, do you really think that somewhat who is constantly described as hawkish would let security slip in an embassy in a hostile area if she had any knowledge of it?

She IS good at her job, damn good, and people like to pick her apart for being aggressive when the world is pretty fucking aggressive towards us. The email thing is her one major flop, and honestly is being handled incorrectly. I wouldn't doubt if that kind of thing was common place.

"All the cool kids are doing it" is not an excuse. She signed it, the buck on that one stopped with her. In my eyes, she's culpable.

[smjjames]

Literally almost every high ranking cabinet member, cabinet-level executive, or even important staffer under both the Bush and Obama administrations are in some way responsible for thousands of innocent deaths. Not to excuse such deadly and ironic shows of force, but Hillary just officially sanctioned the expansion of the program. As for Benghazi, that was hardly her fault, and happened at level a bit below her position frankly. Indeed, the media vilified her to an extreme. I mean, do you really think that somewhat who is constantly described as hawkish would let security slip in an embassy in a hostile area if she had any knowledge of it?

She IS good at her job, damn good, and people like to pick her apart for being aggressive when the world is pretty fucking aggressive towards us. The email thing is her one major flop, and honestly is being handled incorrectly. I wouldn't doubt if that kind of thing was common place.

"All the cool kids are doing it" is not an excuse. She signed it, the buck on that one stopped with her. In my eyes, she's culpable.

Shouldn't you also blame Obama? He's the one who okays the drone warfare stuff.

[penguinofhonor]

Okay so I don't want to distract from the serious discussion that's happening but did anyone know that Waka Flocka Flame is running for president? He announced on 4/20 but I just heard about it. This election cycle just keeps getting better.

[mainiac]

Shouldn't you also blame Obama? He's the one who okays the drone warfare stuff.

I first read that as drone waterboard stuff.

[Angle]

Shouldn't you also blame Obama? He's the one who okays the drone warfare stuff.

I first read that as drone waterboard stuff.

Also accurate.

[Bauglir]

Wouldn't that just short-circuit the drones? I mean, I'm sure they have weatherproofing, but obviously you need to cut a hole in the front to pour the water in.